Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Blason R
Gotcha :) On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 10:41 PM Vadim Pavlov wrote: > You didn’t get the sarcasm in the previous email :) > The issue is that you can not 100% block DoH w/o blocking HTTPs. You may > block well-known domains and IPs but there are many unknown and for > targeted attacks new servers can

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Vadim Pavlov via bind-users
You didn’t get the sarcasm in the previous email :) The issue is that you can not 100% block DoH w/o blocking HTTPs. You may block well-known domains and IPs but there are many unknown and for targeted attacks new servers can be created even behind legit (but compromised) websites. Vadim > On O

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread John Robson via bind-users
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 18:04, Blason R wrote: > > Block 443? Not even possible since most of the portals/web servers now a days works on TCP/443 > Pretty sure that's what he meant when he said: "This method of controlling DoH may have side-effects." ___

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Blason R
Block 443? Not even possible since most of the portals/web servers now a days works on TCP/443 On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 6:57 PM Alan Clegg wrote: > On 10/2/19 8:00 AM, Blason R wrote: > > Hmm that is a good idea to block the DOH queries but what I understood > > is blocking on perimeter level woul

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Alan Clegg
On 10/2/19 8:00 AM, Blason R wrote: > Hmm that is a good idea to block the DOH queries but what I understood > is blocking on perimeter level would be more appropriate. To nullify the abilities of DoH, you can block port TCP/443. That is pretty much guaranteed to keep DoH from working, but you ma

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Blason R
Hmm that is a good idea to block the DOH queries but what I understood is blocking on perimeter level would be more appropriate. On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:58 PM Daniel Stirnimann < daniel.stirnim...@switch.ch> wrote: > You cannot block DoH with RPZ but you can block bootstrapping DoH if the > web

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Blason, depends on what you mean by “DoH” You can disable the Mozilla automatic bootstrap with RPZ: https://kb.isc.org/docs/using-response-policy-zones-to-disable-mozilla-doh-by-default That’s the most lightweight option. The most heavyweight would be a transparent MITM HTTPS proxy/firewal

Re: DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Daniel Stirnimann
You cannot block DoH with RPZ but you can block bootstrapping DoH if the web browser is configured to use "normal" DNS to lookup the DoH endpoint. See also: https://github.com/bambenek/block-doh Daniel On 02.10.19 13:23, Blason R wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Wondering if anyone has any clue or defini

DNS RPZ Protection From DoH

2019-10-02 Thread Blason R
Hi Folks, Wondering if anyone has any clue or defining policies for blocking DoH [DND Over HTTPS] traffic using bind RPZ feature? Does anyone have any use case about it? Thanks and Regards, Blason R ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listin