Docker/Podman is just a container, not *-virtualization platform, so there’s
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just any distro with Podman/Docker.
FreeBSD packages are also well maintained in ports.
I guess rolling distros like Arch Linux should also work well.
But definitely not something that reached end-of-life last year (CentOS Linux 7
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ge this patch in the BIND 9.18 release branch.
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> On 10. 7. 2025, at 10:13, Andreas Kempe wrote:
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regard that 127.0.0.1/8 is
assigned by everything in 127/8 automagically works without explicit address
assigned to the interface.
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with **us-east-1.amazonses.com.** as the owner of the SOA
record. As the previous
delegation also included "feedback.", this is matches the log message you've
been seeing as
> us-east-1.amazonses.com.
can't really be subdomain of something deeper in the tree:
> feedback-s
Redis (nor any other nosql database) doesn’t really have the properties we need for finding closest enclosers, doing partial matches nor really the performance.Ondrej --Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside
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ak, by default any recursion needed for a request is done
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> On 20. 6. 2025, at 16:24, Randy Scott via bind-users
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Ok. And what are your observations?
Or do you expect us to debug your issue and interpret the outputs you send here
for you?
As a side note, the rndc outputs you are pasting into your emails are mostly
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What If you actually read the manual that I sent you - syntax of sizeval is
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> On 9. 6. 2025, at 6:34, Phi
It does have the effect.
Also there’s BIND 9 ARM at https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9.20.9/
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Yes, there's no math involved, it just honors the limit.
FTR you can also say:
max-cache-size 2GB;
You don't have to specify it to the last byte.
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atistics/memory/contexts/context/name=ADB
/statistics/memory/contexts/context/inuse=664
/statistics/memory/contexts/context/name=ADB_dynamic
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- 1.6GB-2GB should be more
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> On 9. 6. 2025, at 5:45, Philip Prindeville
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Does the named report proper max-cache-size into the log when starting?
Something like:
'max-cache-
size 90%' - setting to 86522MB (out of 96136MB)
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-explained/ for more
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> On 18. 5. 2025, at 23:21, Philip Prindeville via bind-us
You are running an unsupported BIND 9.18 release. I would start with upgrading
to the latest 9.18 or even 9.20 release. There’s no point in debugging software
that’s missing one year of accumulated bug fixes.
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ch and stragglers. You
should do this anyway as an ISP if you have resources for this.
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> dig +short +nsid version.bind. txt ch @dns4.p08.nsone.net
This needs to be this: ^^^
You missed @ and thus you asked your local resolver.
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ll the details about the domain name configuration
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It’s been tracked as https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/5268 and https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/issues/217127Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working
This looks like named is not sending the systemd notifications to the
supervisor. Is there anything unusual on your system? Are those stock ISC
packages?
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It might, except it has been removed (now I admit I don’t remember in which
version), because it was proprietary and never had any real users. It should
work while it is still available, but I am not really keen on resurrecting the
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only if you need to - starting with blazingly fast classification would
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this was the first time I've ever heard about tj-actions in
my life.
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Hi again,if this is something that is going to be open-source and the whole BIND 9 users community would benefit from this, I would love to hear and see more.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside
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you can hardly create a static list from all of the domains that can possibly
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I do understand the usefulness of dynamic classification.
There’s just not a straightforward interface for it now. Somebody will have to
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We would be happy to accept any work that extends the plugins API if you need
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For constructing the modified message, I am afraid there’s nothing like
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then there's always the third option that's listed in the mailing list
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It does, and it follows the FHS, so not in /etc.
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> On 16. 3. 2025, at 17:08, Timothe Litt via bind-users
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Providers (5.5.6 and onwards):
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Feel free to fill the issue, but I can't promise this will be looked at quite
soon
as this is in the "doctor it hurts when I do this" territory.
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Sounds like this: https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/3896--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.On 4. 3. 2025, at 10:01, Klaus Darilion via bind-users wrote
Sure, here is 9.18.26 with all the required patches:
https://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.18.34/bind-9.18.34.tar.xz
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Start with upgrading to the latest 9.18. You are 8 versions behind, and yes,
bugs get fixed.
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> On 27. 2. 2025, at 23
Have you read:
https://kb.isc.org/docs/dnssec-key-and-signing-policy
and
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/latest/dnssec-guide.html
This RFC should give you some background too:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6781
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It's absolutely ok to drop the dependency for your custom packages.
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> On 13. 2. 2025, at 17:17, Malcolm Scot
ethod as the
distributions supporting that will get deprecated. As of now, the
change you mentioned will be included in Debian Trixie that hasn't
been released yet, and there's too many installations that still use
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Not sure if we
is possible to have smaller and faster, sometimes the smaller even
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> On 10. 2. 2025, at 15:07, Turritop
0-Feb-2025 08:31:39.626 lame-servers: info: REFUSED unexpected RCODE resolving
'kriss.re.kr/MX/IN': 134.75.30.1#53
but there are no debug lines:
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Whatever you are doing, it looks like your local configuration / operations
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The answer to both are yes. We will adapt to the living word and be considerate
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You need to check the linked MRs, the original was indeed introduced in 9.20.5,
but there's a fix:
https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/merge_requests/9985
And that hasn't been released yet.
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packages installed, see
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peaking of the best practice, I would
recommend using the current naming of the server roles and current
naming of the configuration options.
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e line you just quoted:
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The file in debian was incomplete while the default built-in empty zones are
much longer list. There's no point
in maintaining both lists at the same time when the built-in works just fine.
Hi Support Info,
that’s quite unusual name!
The BIND 9 packages in Debian have been properly updated:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/bind9
Whatever you are seeing is your local problem.
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will be released sometime
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Here is the upstream guide:
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s/raw/bind-9.18.34-dev.tar.xz
* [9.20.6-dev]:
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> On 28. 1. 2025, at 6:32, Nagesh Thati wrote:
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> severity dynamic;
options
Please be aware of these changes to configuration files when upgrading the
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> On 24. 1. 2025, at 22:32, Lee w
You
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> On 23. 1. 2025, at 17:16, sami.ra...@sofre
bmit a solid correct patch with a good reasoning,
there's probably nobody that is going to work on this.
The itch to scratch here isn't particularly bothering.
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Hi Klaus,
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during the fall semester and the images work just fine both for authoritative and recursive workload. And I’ve tested them using both docker and podman.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal
Hi Guillaume,thanks for reading the instructions. I’m afraid you’ve hit a bug and filling an issue would be appropriate in this case.I also think that Klaus (in Cc) seen similar crash.We would appreciate if you can provide coredump and binaries with debug symbols.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him
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> On 17. 12. 2024, at 21:16, Ondřej Surý wrote:
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> disa.mil servers are timing out on me over IPv6:
>
&
s.gdcs.disa.mil IN NS
cds.disa.mil IN NS
e1008.d.akamaiedge.akamai.csd.disa.mil. IN A
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> On 17. 12. 2024, at 20:5
.gbp5b5fe5-Debian <<>> +tries=1 -4
IN NS @nstll.eulisa.europa.eu. _domainkey.eulisa.europa.eu
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Alternatively these links also work:
9.18: https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/bind-9.18/changelog.html
9.20: https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/bind-9.20/changelog.html or
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You'll find the "changelogs" in doc/changelogs now, the file is now
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If you want to see development changelog, it is more useful to do
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> On 10. 12. 2024, at 20:07, Nick Tait via bind-user
on SOA and DNSKEY records just to be sure nothing stays in the cache for too long.Then before the change I would change those TTLs to 0, wait out the previous TTL, and then again just fold the data, and the resolvers should immediately switch to new chain.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working
Hi Klaus,
the bind-dev repository is now at 9.21.2-302-gebe0db5daad-1 as I remember
you are using Debian on the servers, right?
Could you test that version if you can see the same timeouts you've been
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version number, but
it has a pile of patches all in the name of “stability”. Unfortunately, the
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> On 24. 11. 2024, at 13:10, James wrote:
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> Is this my mistake or bind's?
Hard to tell since you have provided virtually no information in your email.
You need to share the configuration and the logs for the start if you want the
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ility,
but for small setups this could even be just a manual intervention - you can
configure the IP address on the second server in the case of the outage.
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I think the good starting point is exactly the question that Marco asked - we
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You haven’t pasted the contents of the include files, but most likely it’s the
contents of /etc/bind/named.conf.options that are missing the semicolon at the
end, but the parser only complains at the next directive which is located in
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> On 5. 11. 2024, at 15:32, N M wrote:
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> What changed between bind-9.18.30 and bind-9.18.31 that would cause it to not
> compile?
Centos 7 went end-of-life, so we no longer care about it. That’s what has
happened. You should not be using system past the EOL date.
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> On 6. 11. 2024, at 16:22, Mike Hodson wrote:
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> Why is the bind project using such a library that seems to be perennially
> unstable?
You are absolutely and utterly wrong in your assessment.
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Since the libuv bug is in the open, I’ll link it here as well:
https://github.com/libuv/libuv/issues/4594
I’m in contact with Apple folks, and they have all the information they need
now.
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-exempt {
10.0.0.0/8;
2001:db8::100;
};
If that doesn't help, I would suggest to fill an issue in our GitLab, it seems
like a genuine bug.
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I spent last two hours crashing my computer while bisecting the issue,
and you would not have guessed the commit that causes this:
commit f063ee276e4a7f6cfccbefa969e8db8df952348b
Author: Ondřej Surý
Date: 2022-05-18 14:10:58 +0200
Use libuv CFLAGS and LIBS when checking for features
Please stop framing this as this is BIND 9 fault. I’ll report this to Apple as
I can reproduce this on my machine too on unprivileged account.
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> maybe named is using some special system call
Named is not using anything special. All the stuff is just libraries and
standard API.
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As Mark said - you need to take this to Apple. It could be kernel bug, it could
be a compiler bug. Userspace program crashing the hardware is pretty bad, but
there’s nothing we can do on our side.
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your semestral project ends?
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> On 1. 11. 2024, at 15:22, Leonie Seelisch
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> Dear users a
DO flag is indication to “do DNSSEC”, it has no other meaning. You should be looking for AD flag.As for delv output - it prints out which names are validated and those that are not. I don’t see anything wrong here.--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different
You can’t do this. The signatures are unique per zone and thus the files need
to be unique as well. Just write a small provisioning on your side that
duplicates the files.
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> On 3. 10. 2024, at 11:21, 大浦 義 wrote:
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> ;; WARN
agile, not resilient.
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ISC funds the deve
secondary site,
or use anycast for each primary, but since you are hosting “example.com” I
don’t think it matters much.
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> On 27
/~sgtatham/bugs.html
We don’t plan to drop dnstap any time soon, if that’s what you are asking.
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> On 19. 9. 2024, at 8
/configure invocation is wrong, LIBURCU_CFLAGS and LIBURCU_LIBS
need to be correct CFLAGS and LIBS, but you should be setting PKG_CONFIG_PATH
instead.
However, my recommendation would be to use the prepackaged RPMs for RHEL 9
provided by ISC.
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My wo
you sent is: well, it's
broken for you.
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> On 16. 9. 2024, at 13:35, Sakuma, Koshiro wrote:
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> He
Then I guess you have to look why the selinux policy hasn’t been installed.My first instinct would be to purge isc-bind package and re-install it again.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your
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