Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <519b9008.7040...@chrysler.com>, Kevin Darcy writes: > > Ugh, I'm trying _really_ hard not to be an annoying nitpicker (yeah, I > know, try harder :-), but... > > The relevant verbiage of RFC 6762 is: > > Caching DNS servers SHOULD recognize these names as special and > SHOU

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Kevin Darcy
The rule of thumb is: BIND instances need access to a root zone. Either a) you forward for it, or b) you are authoritative (master or slave) for it, or c) you're set up as a "stub" for it, d) you prime it via the contents of an explicitly-configured "hints" zone, or e) you use the compiled-in In

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Kevin Darcy
Ugh, I'm trying _really_ hard not to be an annoying nitpicker (yeah, I know, try harder :-), but... The relevant verbiage of RFC 6762 is: Caching DNS servers SHOULD recognize these names as special and SHOULD NOT attempt to look up NS records for them, or otherwise query authoritative

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130521140821.gb11...@h.detebe.org>, "Elmar K. Bins" writes: > Re Mark, > > > > Oh, I forgot to mention that all master zones have "notify explicit;" set. > > > (Is there a global setting for that?) > > > > What about the slave zones? They also send notify messages. > > Which slav

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Mark, > > Oh, I forgot to mention that all master zones have "notify explicit;" set. > > (Is there a global setting for that?) > > What about the slave zones? They also send notify messages. Which slave zones? This server is auth-only, master-only. That's it. No slaves, no recursion, no look

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130521134214.ga11...@h.detebe.org>, "Elmar K. Bins" writes: > Re Mark, > > thanks for your answer (and good morning!), > > ma...@isc.org (Mark Andrews) wrote: > > > > > Recursion is off, and the root hints file has been removed from the local > > > zone config. No effect. > > >

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Mark, thanks for your answer (and good morning!), ma...@isc.org (Mark Andrews) wrote: > > Recursion is off, and the root hints file has been removed from the local > > zone config. No effect. > > Authoritative nameservers still need to lookup address of nameservers > to send NOTIFY messages

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130521085732.gh23...@h.detebe.org>, "Elmar K. Bins" writes: > ... these annoying root lookups: > error (host unreachable) resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.112.36.4#53 > error (host unreachable) resolving './NS/IN': 192.36.148.17#53 > ... > > > Hi guys, > > I guess a few of you have se

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <2013052109.ga18...@fantomas.sk>, Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > >> On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: > >> > The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and > >> > turn off notify to so you don't spam the official > >> > root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.net

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Bryan, bryanlhar...@me.com (Bryan Harris) wrote: >> Recursion is off, and the root hints file has been removed from the local >> zone config. No effect. >   > Do you have a line like this?  Hope it helps. > allow-recursion { none;  }; Would that help more than options { recursion no; } ? Any

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Bryan Harris
On May 21, 2013, at 03:57 AM, "Elmar K. Bins" wrote: Recursion is off, and the root hints file has been removed from the local zone config. No effect. Do you have a line like this?  Hope it helps.allow-recursion { none;  };Bryan ___ Please visit https:/

Re: Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread jsdy
On 2013-05-21 04:57, Elmar K. Bins wrote: ... these annoying root lookups: error (host unreachable) resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.112.36.4#53 error (host unreachable) resolving './NS/IN': 192.36.148.17#53 ... Hi guys, I guess a few of you have seen and mitigated this before. We're running a fe

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: >The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and >turn off notify to so you don't spam the official >root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.net. In message <20130521072352.ga17...@fantomas.sk>, Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: I though

Authoritative internal server - how do I get rid of...

2013-05-21 Thread Elmar K. Bins
... these annoying root lookups: error (host unreachable) resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.112.36.4#53 error (host unreachable) resolving './NS/IN': 192.36.148.17#53 ... Hi guys, I guess a few of you have seen and mitigated this before. We're running a few BIND server strictly internally - for maste

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/21/2013 09:28 AM, Doug Barton wrote: ...which IIRC some configs for root-slaving (FreeBSD?) use by default. It's not used by default, but it is in the config, commented out. Ah, faulty RAM on my part ;o) ___ Please visit https://lists.isc.org

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Doug Barton
On 05/21/2013 12:39 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: On 05/21/2013 08:23 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and turn off notify to so you don't spam the official root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20130521072352.ga17...@fantomas.sk>, Matus UHLAR - fantomas writes: > On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: > > The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and > > turn off notify to so you don't spam the official > > root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.net. >

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/21/2013 08:39 AM, Phil Mayers wrote: ICANN run a specifc AXFR service for various infrastructure zones: http://dns.icann.org/services/axfr/ ...which IIRC some configs for root-slaving (FreeBSD?) use by default. I should probably add that, AFAICT, opinion about the value of slaving ".

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Phil Mayers
On 05/21/2013 08:23 AM, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and turn off notify to so you don't spam the official root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.net. zone "." IN { type slave;

Re: Negative zones; NXDOMAIN responses

2013-05-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 21.05.13 11:03, Mark Andrews wrote: The simplest solution is to slave the root zone and turn off notify to so you don't spam the official root servers. 192.5.5.241 is f.root-servers.net. zone "." IN { type slave; file "slave/root"; masters { 192.5