Slave Servers Return SERVFAIL

2008-11-17 Thread Merton Campbell Crockett
We have a sparsely populated IN-ADDR.ARPA zone used to support our network infrastructure. I had originally defined the following type of zone structure. bbb.aaa.in-addr.arpa 1.bbb.aaa.in-addr.arpa ... 254.bbb.aaa.in-addr.arpa Within the bbb.aaa.in-addr.arpa

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Kevin Darcy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because individual records are public doesn't mean you should allow just anyone to configure their nameserver as a slave to your domain. There's no benefit to allowing transfers to just anybody except for the allowance it makes for the laziness of admins. Inco

Views and Blackhole

2008-11-17 Thread root net
Hello, I have a server I am testing before I put in production. Working on a more secure bind config. BTW if anyone has any other suggestions on locking down bind beside below and chroot let me know. I was adding views which has been debated time and time again whether or not it really helps bu

Re: Most external domains do not resolve (missing root servers?)

2008-11-17 Thread Kevin Darcy
Do you only trust your own subnet? Or, perhaps there are other adjacent subnets that may be needing to use your nameserver for resolving Internet names (?) The identity/size of the "allow-recursion" range needs to be informed by your overall Internet-facing network topology. Talk to your netwo

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Kevin Darcy
Res wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Jefferson Ogata wrote: On 2008-11-17 14:25, Holger Honert wrote: Chris Thompson schrieb: On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote: Ack! allow-transfer should never be any What, never? Why not? Security issue! You really want everyone to download your zone(s)? I couldn'

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Petersson
Guess I should start digging in the code then :) On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Evan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IIRC update-policy cannot be used in congestion with the allow-update > > statement. > > My bad--you're right. There's code I'd never noticed before that says > allow-update

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Evan Hunt
> IIRC update-policy cannot be used in congestion with the allow-update > statement. My bad--you're right. There's code I'd never noticed before that says allow-update will be ignored if update-policy is set. Whoops. (Oddly, the check only applies when both of them are defined in the zone itsel

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Dan
Just because individual records are public doesn't mean you should allow just anyone to configure their nameserver as a slave to your domain. There's no benefit to allowing transfers to just anybody except for the allowance it makes for the laziness of admins. Weigh that against the risks

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Petersson
Yeah it would most likely be a feature request/change. IIRC update-policy cannot be used in congestion with the allow-update statement. Personally I prefer the usage of update-policy as I can assign different business units within my organization to take responsibility for certain records/record t

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Evan Hunt
> Actually, to take this a step further, is there any remote possibility to > combine this with update-policy as well? I'm not sure what you mean. I believe you can use allow-updates to filter according to IP address and then update-policy to filter according to key; that might be an easier way

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2008-11-17 22:20, Res wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Jefferson Ogata wrote: On 2008-11-17 14:25, Holger Honert wrote: Chris Thompson schrieb: On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote: Ack! allow-transfer should never be any What, never? Why not? Security issue! You really want everyone to download your

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Petersson
Actually, to take this a step further, is there any remote possibility to combine this with update-policy as well? I know both questions has been mentioned on the list before with varied answers but I wanted to raise it again since this was finally figured out. /Jonathan On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at

Re: Lots of errors, having 'lame' day, suggestions?

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Haneda
So it looks like my zone config file, not the actual zone, but the config statement that is in conf was gone. I added it back in and all is well now. I have ran rndc reload so many times, I have no idea how it was deleted, it is all in one file, not separate files, so it seems unlikely i

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Jonathan Petersson
Yeah, kinda makes sense, thanks! /Jonathan On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Evan Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > allow-update { !{!10/8;any;}; key update-key; }; > > > > Wouldn't this still permit any client on the 10/8 subnet to update the > > zones? > > It's very confusing syntax, but

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Jefferson Ogata
On 2008-11-17 14:25, Holger Honert wrote: Chris Thompson schrieb: On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote: Ack! allow-transfer should never be any What, never? Why not? Security issue! You really want everyone to download your zone(s)? I couldn't care less. If the security of my systems were the least

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Jeff Justice
Ack! allow-transfer should never be any What, never? Why not? Security issue! You really want everyone to download your zone(s)? That is a decision for each operator to make. The ability to transfer a zone is not by itself a security issue. I guess the question is, what information can be

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Evan Hunt
> > allow-update { !{!10/8;any;}; key update-key; }; > > Wouldn't this still permit any client on the 10/8 subnet to update the > zones? It's very confusing syntax, but no. You're probably thinking in boolean algebra (I did too, when I first encountered this). If it were boolean algebra, you c

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Holger Honert writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --090609000409090603090005 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Chris Thompson schrieb: > > On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote:

OT - netiquette [was Re: Zone not showing us as authority]

2008-11-17 Thread David Ford
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Re: Lots of errors, having 'lame' day, suggestions?

2008-11-17 Thread Chris Buxton
No, the bad referral is coming from your own server. The "query (cache) denied" message means that your server doesn't consider itself to be authoritative for the zone in question. Find out why. Chris Buxton Professional Services Men & Mice On Nov 17, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Scott Haneda wrote:

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Holger Honert
Chris Thompson schrieb: On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Jeff Justice wrote: Well, first part solved. I forgot to change the IP address of our nameserver at the registrar. Secondary is still not updating though. options { directory "/opt/local/etc/named/"; listen-on po

Lots of errors, having 'lame' day, suggestions?

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Haneda
Look at some web stats, I saw a traffic drop over the weekend on a few sites. Looking into it, I am stumped. Here are a few named log snips: 17-Nov-2008 05:47:26.582 security: info: client 203.162.4.198#40307: query (cache) 'nuclearrabbit.com/MX/IN' denied 17-Nov-2008 05:47:27.375 security:

Re: nsupdate ACL based on a key AND ip-subnet

2008-11-17 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 17:35 -0800, Chris Buxton wrote: > Use a firewall (with deep packet inspection) to restrict by subnet. > Then use the TSIG key in the allow-update statement. > > Unfortunately, to my knowledge, that's the only way to do this. Wouldn't using a BIND view to restrict

Re: Mirrored DNS Servers, Some Addresses Not Found

2008-11-17 Thread Sam Wilson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have BIND installed on 3 different computers, all three having the > same configuration information. I use to use WebMin to update each, but > that was kind of a pain to have to go to three different systems to make > a chan

Re: Zone not showing us as authority

2008-11-17 Thread anand . bapat
Need more details like where are you querying from and do you have any intermediate DNS servers acting as "cache-only". You may need to clear the cache before seeing any changes. On Nov 16, 1:33 pm, Steve Koon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --===2781829417837077449== > Content-Class: ur

Re: Zone not showing us as authority

2008-11-17 Thread anand . bapat
On Nov 16, 1:33 pm, Steve Koon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --===2781829417837077449== > Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C94819.E4F43606" > > --_=_NextPart_001_01C94819.E4F43606 > Content-Typ

Lots of errors, having 'lame' day, suggestions?

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Haneda
Look at some web stats, I saw a traffic drop over the weekend on a few sites. Looking into it, I am stumped. Here are a few named log snips: 17-Nov-2008 05:47:26.582 security: info: client 203.162.4.198#40307: query (cache) 'nuclearrabbit.com/MX/IN' denied 17-Nov-2008 05:47:27.375 security:

Re: Zone not showing us as authority

2008-11-17 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 10:33 -0800, Steve Koon wrote: > We have moved a zone from UltraDNS to our DNS server 1 week ago and it > is still not showing us as authority. Can anyone help me as to why > this might be happening and how to fix it? I have included a dig below > using a public dns server (4.

Re: Secondary and TLD not updating

2008-11-17 Thread Chris Thompson
On Nov 17 2008, Res wrote: On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Jeff Justice wrote: Well, first part solved. I forgot to change the IP address of our nameserver at the registrar. Secondary is still not updating though. options { directory "/opt/local/etc/named/"; listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1;74.

Re: Unavailable Domains?

2008-11-17 Thread Barry Dean
Thanks for this. All working now. On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 01:01 +1100, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dean, Barry" writes: > There is a firewall sitting in front of the servers for > bjmu.edu.cn that is blocking traffic from port 53. I think that there wa