You can probably fork from a central repo.
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Very true. I would never use Fortran for an OS. From what I understand
compiler writers still prefer Fortran as its easier to vectorize. Thus
if you want best vector performance from your code Fortran is it, mainly
due to the easy of writing a compiler that can do so.
In the end use the tool
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Paul Edmon wrote:
Once C has native arrays and orders them properly, then we can talk :).
Yeah, like this. That's really the big difference, isn't it? Although
one can argue about just what "properly" really means... other than "in
the same order that Fortran orders them
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018, Peter St. John wrote:
Maybe I'm being too serious but in the old days, Fortran was the most
mature, maintained compiler and the libraries were great, then later, C had
better compilers but the libraries were still great. Now, I think the only
good thing about Fortran is that
It's still the case the for intense numerical analysis Fortran is best
even though the gap between it and C has diminished. Being a
computational astrophysicist by training I can speak from experience
that Fortran is superior to C for doing serious numerical work at
scale. What Fortran does w
On 11/28/18 11:29 AM, Stu Midgley wrote:
I agree 100% . You can't beat bash and fortran.
Heh ... for me it was Perl and Fortran, circa 1992-1995. I automated
some of my work flows. Which was something rare back then. Turns out
leveraging automation for a parametric scan on long running
Maybe I'm being too serious but in the old days, Fortran was the most
mature, maintained compiler and the libraries were great, then later, C had
better compilers but the libraries were still great. Now, I think the only
good thing about Fortran is that it's pretty easy to learn?
Peter
On Wed, No
I agree 100% . You can't beat bash and fortran.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:02 AM Paul Edmon wrote:
> Fortran is and remains an awesome language. More people should use it:
>
> https://wordsandbuttons.online/fortran_is_still_a_thing.html
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 13:51:05 +0100, you wrote:
>Now I am all for connecting divers and flexible workflows to true HPC systems
>and grids that feel different if not experienced
>with (otherwise what is the use of a computer if there are no users making use
>of it?), but do not make the mistake of
Those interested in providing user-friendly HPC might want to take a
look at Open OnDemand. I'm not affiliated with this project, but wanted
to make sure it got a plug. I've heard good things so far.
http://openondemand.org/
Eliot
On 11/26/18 10:26, John Hearns via Beowulf wrote:
This may
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:33, Bogdan Costescu wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:27 PM John Hearns via Beowulf <
> beowulf@beowulf.org> wrote:
>
>> I have come across this question in a few locations. Being specific, I am
>> a fan of the Julia language. Ont he Juia forum a respected developer
>>
>
> If HPC doesn't make it easy for these users to transfer their workflow
> to the cluster, and the cloud providers do, then the users will move
> to using the cloud even if it costs them 10%, 20% more because at the
> end of the day it is about getting the job done and not about spending
> time t
Fortran is and remains an awesome language. More people should use it:
https://wordsandbuttons.online/fortran_is_still_a_thing.html
-Paul Edmon-
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As a follow up note on workflows,
we also have used 'sshfs like constructs' to help non technical users to
compute things on local clusters, the actual CERN grid
infrastructure and on (national) super computers. We built some middleware
suitable for that many moons ago:
http://lgi.tc.lic.leiden
MArk, again I do not have time to give your answer justice today.
However, as you are in NL, can you send me some olliebollen please? I am a
terrible addict.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 13:52, mark somers
wrote:
> Well, please be careful in naming things:
>
> http://cloudscaling.com/blog/cloud-comput
Well, please be careful in naming things:
http://cloudscaling.com/blog/cloud-computing/grid-cloud-hpc-whats-the-diff/
(note; The guy only heard about MPI and does not consider SMP based codes using
i.e. OpenMP, but he did understand there are
different things being talked about).
Now I am all f
Bogdan, Igor. Thankyou very much for your thoughtful answers. I don not
have much time today to do your replies the justice of a proper answer.
Regarding the ssh filesystem, the scenario was that I was working for a
well known company.
We were running CFD simulations on remote academic HPC setups.
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:27 PM John Hearns via Beowulf
wrote:
> I have come across this question in a few locations. Being specific, I am
> a fan of the Julia language. Ont he Juia forum a respected developer
> recently asked what the options were for keeping code developed on a laptop
> in sync
Julia packaging https://docs.julialang.org/en/v1/stdlib/Pkg/index.html
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 01:42, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 07:51:06 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:50 PM Gerald Henriksen
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 16:26:42 +0100, you wrote:
> >>
> * - note the HPC isn't unique in this regard. The Linux distributions
> are facing their own version of this, where much of the software is no
> longer packagable in the traditional sense as it instead relies on
> language specific packaging systems and languages that don't lend
> themselves to
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