Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

2018-11-04 Thread jaquilina
Probably a stupid question here, What is the advantage of using salty sea water lets say over for example mineral oil? I have seen on you tube these guys showing that a pc will still run in a fish tank and all components submerged in mineral oil? Yes it will be messier to change components but

Re: [Beowulf] Oh.. IBM eats Red Hat

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday, 5 November 2018 2:14:50 AM AEDT Gerald Henriksen wrote: > The biggest threat to RHEL isn't lost sales to CentOS but losing > customers and mindshare to Ubuntu (which certainly appears to have > been an issue the last number of years based on the number of software > projects that suppor

Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

2018-11-04 Thread Chris Samuel
On Monday, 5 November 2018 3:13:29 AM AEDT John Hearns via Beowulf wrote: > Have we faced up to the environmental impact of this? Where I've been has always tried to reuse/resell/recycle systems. Our alphacluster was snapped up by folks in the US, our first Intel cluster went to another unive

Re: [Beowulf] Oh.. IBM eats Red Hat

2018-11-04 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 11:28:31 +, you wrote: >There is one thing that is going to be super interesting to see. Red hat >fairly recently absorbed Centos Dev's and added them to the pay roll. > >Two questions yet to be answered are Well, anything is obviously possible and there is certainly exam

Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

2018-11-04 Thread John Hearns via Beowulf
Gerald refers to the web scale datacentres, where the door is shut and servers just fail, till this exceeds a certain threshold. I would move this discussion on - the initial guarantee for HPC servers is three years, with many customers in the UK Assking for a five year year support plan. After th

Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

2018-11-04 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 18:27:05 +, you wrote: > I’m not sure there’s a huge population of Xcloud-Xbox gamers in Orkney. > There's not much daylight this time of year, of course, so maybe that's what > those Orcadians are up to. Likely just a convenient place for a second test unit. In a way t

Re: [Beowulf] More about those underwater data centers

2018-11-04 Thread Stu Midgley
putting data centres in the ocean is complete rubbish. The most stupid and expensive exercise I've ever heard of. Have they heard of a pump? Heat-rejection to sea water is a good idea (rather than air) and will be a whole heap more efficient... but you don't need to submerge your DC. They still

Re: [Beowulf] Oh.. IBM eats Red Hat

2018-11-04 Thread jaquilina
There is one thing that is going to be super interesting to see. Red hat fairly recently absorbed Centos Dev's and added them to the pay roll. Two questions yet to be answered are 1) whats the future of Centos 2) whats the future of Fedora. Regards, Jonathan On 2018-10-31 13:28, Gerald Henrik