Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Ellis H. Wilson III
On 05/19/2014 11:26 PM, Lockwood, Glenn wrote: I appreciate your commentary, Ellis. I agree and disagree with you on your various points, and a lot of comes from what (I suspect) is the difference in our perspectives: Hi Glenn -- sorry to come off uncouth in certain instances. Was writing st

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread James Lowey
I think looking at technology such as MapR is using could address the suboptimal HDFS, there are opportunities to be had with this framework. As for Java, I could pontificate, but to this group I sense this would be pointless... The right tool for the job will trump in the end. James Lowey

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Lockwood, Glenn
I appreciate your commentary, Ellis. I agree and disagree with you on your various points, and a lot of comes from what (I suspect) is the difference in our perspectives: On May 19, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote: > 1. I wish "Hadoop" would die. The term that is. Hadoop exists l

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Ellis H. Wilson III
On 05/19/2014 03:26 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: Great write-up by Glenn Lockwood about the state of Hadoop in HPC. It pretty much nails it, and offers an nice overview of the current ongoing efforts to make it relevant in that field. http://glennklockwood.blogspot.com/2014/05/hadoops-uncomfortab

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Lockwood, Glenn
On May 19, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Christopher Samuel wrote: > Other than that we've had no interest expressed in it to us, and I > wasn't aware of a way for us to support it now we've completely > migrated to Slurm (had no reason to look). FYI, we have a simpler alternative to Hadoop on Demand that i

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/05/14 07:36, Andrew Holway wrote: > There is also support for SLURM as a scheduler however I don't have > a nice link. These bits should mean that Hadoop can play nicely as > a "normal" HPC application. Interesting, we had a small bit of intere

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Andrew Holway
Important paragraph: "Some larger players in the HPC arena have begun to provide rich support for high-performance parallel file systems as a complete alternative to HDFS. IBM's GPFS file system has a file placement optimization (FPO) capability that allows GPFS to act as a drop-in replacement fo

Re: [Beowulf] Hadoop's Uncomfortable Fit in HPC

2014-05-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> Great write-up by Glenn Lockwood about the state of Hadoop in HPC. It > pretty much nails it, and offers an nice overview of the current > ongoing efforts to make it relevant in that field. > > http://glennklockwood.blogspot.com/2014/05/hadoops-uncomfortable-fit-in-hpc.html > > Most spot on thi