Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:12:58PM +, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote: > Consider something > like a credit card processing system. This is going to have a lot of "add > at the end" transaction data. As opposed to, say, a library catalog where > books are checked out essentially at random, and you upda

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 04/07/2014 04:40 PM, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote: On 04/07/2014 03:44 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: As long as you use enterprise-grade SSDs (e.g., Intel's stuff) with overprovisioning, the nand endurance shouldn't be an issue over the lifetime of a cluster. We've used SSDs as our nodes' system d

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Joe Landman
On 4/8/14, 11:05 AM, Michael Di Domenico wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Joe Landman wrote: From a general purpose point of view, Intel and Samsung make great lower end devices. SanDisk makes great higher end devices. We are working on getting some Toshiba's and a few others for ent

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Michael Di Domenico
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Joe Landman wrote: > > From a general purpose point of view, Intel and Samsung make great lower end > devices. SanDisk makes great higher end devices. We are working on getting > some Toshiba's and a few others for enterprise to ultra-high-end testing. > > With s

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Joe Landman
On 4/8/14, 10:25 AM, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote: Even in an enterprise environment, there's some very different write patterns possible. A "scratch" device might get written randomly, while a "logging" device will tend to be written sequentially. Consider something like a credit card processi

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Ellis H. Wilson III
On 04/08/2014 10:12 AM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote: On 4/7/14 6:48 PM, "Ellis H. Wilson III" wrote: On 04/07/2014 09:34 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: Was it wear out, or some other failure mode? And if wear out, was it because consumer SSDs have lame leveling or something like that? Here's how I r

Re: [Beowulf] SSDs for HPC?

2014-04-08 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
On 4/7/14 6:48 PM, "Ellis H. Wilson III" wrote: >On 04/07/2014 09:34 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: >>> Was it wear out, or some other failure mode? >>> >>> And if wear out, was it because consumer SSDs have lame leveling or >>> something like that? >>> >> Here's how I remember it. You took the cap