This is why i have my own cluster at home!
Note that sensitive software you can never boinc.
Game software in general you don't want to boinc.
Only for open source software you can do something like that.
Note that the open source chess software that's there, that the
parameter tuning also get
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I just ran across an interesting anecdote (in Malcolm Gladwell's
> > "Outliers"). It's in the context of Bill Joy, who commented that
> > using timesharing and interact
On May 12, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
>
> I just ran across an interesting anecdote (in Malcolm Gladwell's
> "Outliers"). It's in the context of Bill Joy, who commented that
> using timesharing and interactive systems compared to traditional
> batch/card deck submission was
N
On May 12, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Geoffrey Jacobs wrote:
> On 05/12/2013 12:25 PM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>> Geoffrey,
>>
>> I sense clearly that you keep overlooking the BIGGEST problem.
>>
>> Namely that the guy at home has a car and he feels he can drive
>> it. In
>> fact he can.
>> And that y
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On 13/05/13 03:19, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
> Maybe that he, working for pathscale, isn't happy that i noised
> here in this list one day that for none of my applications
> pathscale is faster than any of the other big compilers, gcc, intel
> c++ and
On 5/12/13 3:42 PM, "Charlie Peck" wrote:
>On May 12, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Lux, Jim (337C)"
>wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Of some interest would be whether the LittleFE folks think that using
>>rPis
>> instead Via Mobos would be worthwhile. By the time you stick a SD card
>>in
>> the Pi and arrange power
On 5/12/13 1:59 PM, "Mark Hahn" wrote:
>
>on the original topic, "cheap open learning clusters" to me sounds like
>a great application for EC2 or similar IaaS.
Not really.. There's that intangible benefit from having the hardware in
front of you to do with what you will.
And, more importantly,
On May 12, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Lux, Jim (337C)" wrote:
> ...
> Of some interest would be whether the LittleFE folks think that using rPis
> instead Via Mobos would be worthwhile. By the time you stick a SD card in
> the Pi and arrange power supplies, I'm not sure the price difference is
> all tha
> (is a cluster of Arduinos a Beowulf? It's commodity hardware running open
> source software using commodity non-proprietary interconnects. I think so..
only in a loose interpretation. to my mind, beowulf is about repurposing
(hacking in the classic sense). yes, off-the-shelf components, but us
On 5/12/13 11:52 AM, "Joe Landman" wrote:
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>
>I had forgotten to plug this, but have a gander here:
>http://limulus.basement-supercomputing.com/
>
>Cluster in a box, by one of our (Beowulf's) own.
>
Yes.. I had mentioned that some emails ago..
BUT.. I wonder whether it being "in a box" would
On 5/12/13 11:29 AM, "Geoffrey Jacobs" wrote:
>On 05/12/2013 01:12 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>> Well.. On the Beowulf list the (super) goes without saying.. Is there
>>any
>> other kind worth considering?
>>
>> (is a cluster of Arduinos a Beowulf? It's commodity hardware running
>>open
>>
On 05/12/2013 01:55 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
>
> I just ran across an interesting anecdote (in Malcolm Gladwell's
> "Outliers"). It's in the context of Bill Joy, who commented that using
> timesharing and interactive systems compared to traditional batch/card
> deck submission was like speed c
On 05/12/2013 10:55 AM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
> This is why I think things like ArduWulf or, more particularly
> LittleFE, are valuable. And it's also why nobody should start
> packaging LittleFE clusters in an enclosure. Once all those mobos are
> in a box with walls, it starts to discourag
On 05/12/2013 01:12 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
> Well.. On the Beowulf list the (super) goes without saying.. Is there any
> other kind worth considering?
>
> (is a cluster of Arduinos a Beowulf? It's commodity hardware running open
> source software using commodity non-proprietary interconnects.
On 05/12/2013 12:25 PM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
> Geoffrey,
>
> I sense clearly that you keep overlooking the BIGGEST problem.
>
> Namely that the guy at home has a car and he feels he can drive it. In
> fact he can.
> And that you are going to teach the guy how to drive a moped.
>
> Are you re
Well.. On the Beowulf list the (super) goes without saying.. Is there any
other kind worth considering?
(is a cluster of Arduinos a Beowulf? It's commodity hardware running open
source software using commodity non-proprietary interconnects. I think so..
But I don't think it's HPC... So it would b
On 05/12/2013 01:37 PM, "C. Bergström" wrote:
> On 05/13/13 12:19 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>> Maybe that he, working for pathscale, isn't happy that i noised here
>> in this list one day that for none of my applications pathscale is
>> faster than any of the other big compilers,
>> gcc, intel c
On 05/12/2013 01:55 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
> I am a BIG believer in personal computing…
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For the same reasons.
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I just ran across an interesting anecdote (in Malcolm Gladwell's "Outliers").
It's in the context of Bill Joy, who commented that using timesharing and
interactive systems compared to traditional batch/card deck submission was like
speed chess vs chess by mail. That interactivity facilitated
On 05/13/13 12:19 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
> Maybe that he, working for pathscale, isn't happy that i noised here
> in this list one day that for none of my applications pathscale is
> faster than any of the other big compilers,
> gcc, intel c++ and visual c++?
rude flamebait, but I'll bite t
Geoffrey,
I sense clearly that you keep overlooking the BIGGEST problem.
Namely that the guy at home has a car and he feels he can drive it.
In fact he can.
And that you are going to teach the guy how to drive a moped.
Are you realizing what i try to make clear all the time?
On May 12, 2013,
Maybe that he, working for pathscale, isn't happy that i noised here
in this list one day that for none of my applications pathscale is
faster than any of the other big compilers,
gcc, intel c++ and visual c++?
Kind Regards,
Vincent
On May 12, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Holway wrote:
> Perhaps
Perhaps you could inform us of exactly what kind of discourse is acceptable.
On 12 May 2013 18:38, "C. Bergström" wrote:
> Can you people please stop the noise, take it offlist, change the
> subject.. and or add OT in the subject or something..
>
>
> Thanks
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On 5/12/13 8:29 AM, "Vincent Diepeveen" wrote:
>
>On May 12, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
>>
>> On 5/12/13 4:01 AM, "Vincent Diepeveen" wrote:
>>
>>> You find it a cool idea to learn students how to drive a moped and to
>>> steer well with a moped
>>> in order to let them underst
On 05/12/2013 12:11 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
>
> On 5/12/13 8:42 AM, "Geoffrey Jacobs" wrote:
>
>> On 05/12/2013 10:29 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> If you want to train a new jetfighter pilot, you're going to just
>>> give them a course how to drive a moped,
>>> and after t
On 5/12/13 8:42 AM, "Geoffrey Jacobs" wrote:
>On 05/12/2013 10:29 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>> If you want to train a new jetfighter pilot, you're going to just
>> give them a course how to drive a moped,
>> and after they can drive a moped, you are going to give them a pilot
>
On 05/12/2013 10:29 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
> Jim,
>
> If you want to train a new jetfighter pilot, you're going to just
> give them a course how to drive a moped,
> and after they can drive a moped, you are going to give them a pilot
> license and wave good bye to
> them: "good luck to
Jim, there was a huge difference algorithmic, at least for the
applications i have been programming for,
when moving from 36 ports to 100+ ports.
Above 100 ports life really changes.
All kind of "found while i was in the bathroom" type algorithms no
longer work.
You really need a paper model
On May 12, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
> On 5/12/13 4:01 AM, "Vincent Diepeveen" wrote:
>
>> You find it a cool idea to learn students how to drive a moped and to
>> steer well with a moped
>> in order to let them understand the problems of how to fly an
>> airplane, meanwhile at
In the context of "setups for teaching networks and clusters"..
If you wanted to experiment with various interconnects and topologies, what is
the minimum number of nodes and "ports" on each node.
For instance, if each node has 2 ports, you're constrained to lines and rings.
3 ports gets you a h
On 05/12/2013 07:07 AM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
> I think that if we want people to design and fix automobile and jet
> engines, it is a wise thing to start them with lawnmower and moped engines
> first, rather than have their first hands on experience be with a
> hypersonic SCRAMjet burning hydrazi
On 5/12/13 4:01 AM, "Vincent Diepeveen" wrote:
>You find it a cool idea to learn students how to drive a moped and to
>steer well with a moped
>in order to let them understand the problems of how to fly an
>airplane, meanwhile at home they got a car?
>
>They will never respect you in this manner
>>
>>
>>
>> Top 500 is just that "top 500"..
>>
>> What fraction of total computational work done on clusters is being
>> done
>> by the top 10? I suspect that when you get down that list a ways,
>> you
>> start seeing fairly pedestrian clusters with fairly conventional
>> nodes,
>> and that ther
You find it a cool idea to learn students how to drive a moped and to
steer well with a moped
in order to let them understand the problems of how to fly an
airplane, meanwhile at home they got a car?
They will never respect you in this manner, and they are da*** right
doing that.
On May 11
On May 11, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>
> On 5/11/13 1:56 AM, "Vincent Diepeveen" wrote:
>
>>
>> On May 10, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/13 6:41 PM, "Prentice Bisbal"
>>> wrote:
>>>
On 05/08/2013 09:41 AM, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
> The game co
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