[Beowulf] [hpc-announce] CFP: ParCo 2013 PhD Symposium

2013-04-15 Thread Josef Weidendorfer
[Apologies if you got multiple copies of this email. If you'd like to opt out of these announcements, information on how to unsubscribe is available at the bottom of this email.] Call for Papers ParCo2013 PhD Sympos

Re: [Beowulf] HP Moonshot also with AMD Kyoto

2013-04-15 Thread Ellis H. Wilson III
On 04/15/2013 08:27 PM, Bogdan Costescu wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Joe Landman > > wrote: > > This is getting very non-HPC/Beowulf-ish. My last public post on > > this. Email me offline if you want to continue the discussion. > > Pease fo

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Ellis H. Wilson III
On 04/15/2013 02:21 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: > "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where > utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, > network, etc), is at or near 100% capacity for extended periods of time." It would be helpful to me if we coul

Re: [Beowulf] HP Moonshot also with AMD Kyoto

2013-04-15 Thread Bogdan Costescu
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Joe Landman < land...@scalableinformatics.com> wrote: > This is getting very non-HPC/Beowulf-ish. My last public post on > this. Email me offline if you want to continue the discussion. Pease forgive me for continuing this discussion online. It was focused on th

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
> "A high-performance computing system is designed to use one or more > computers to achieve the maximum performance possible on a particular > computational task." I may have to add the "to achieve the maximum performance possible on a particular computational task" to my definition. I like i

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
> - new found obsessive interest in these things they call "skymiles" # > chieftravelingofficer [/sigh] All my flights are to/from NY (with a few to London, and other places), so If I do 50 of those flights, I can just barely hit the lowest mileage level for upgrades. - A new application for

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Joe Landman
On 04/15/2013 05:34 PM, Adam DeConinck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:25:09PM -0400, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: >> An HPC system must be capable of doing something challenging for non-HPC >> systems. Granted, this amounts to "grading on th

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Greg Keller
> > From: Adam DeConinck > Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC > To: beowulf@beowulf.org My own (vague) definition of HPC would probably be based more on the > intended design of the system, something like: > > "A high-performance computing system is designed to use one or more > computers

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Adam DeConinck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 05:25:09PM -0400, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: > An HPC system must be capable of doing something challenging for non-HPC > systems. Granted, this amounts to "grading on the curve" - or perhaps as > for pornography, it could sa

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Max R. Dechantsreiter
I disagree. Any definition of "HPC" must address capability, not merely saturation of resources. An HPC system must be capable of doing something challenging for non-HPC systems. Granted, this amounts to "grading on the curve" - or perhaps as for pornography, it could said that we know it when w

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Tim Cutts
On 15 Apr 2013, at 20:59, Joe Landman wrote: > On 04/15/2013 02:46 PM, James Cuff wrote: > > [...] > >> So here it is, a new name for what we do >> >> H{P,T}(R,A,T)C > > And I thought my regex skills dropped by half when I went all PHB-like :D > > For those unaware: PHB == Pointy Haire

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Geoffrey Jacobs
On 04/15/2013 03:17 PM, Prentice Bisbal wrote: > On 04/15/2013 03:17 PM, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: >> "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where >> utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, >> network, etc), is at or near 100% capacity for extend

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 04/15/2013 03:59 PM, Joe Landman wrote: > On 04/15/2013 02:46 PM, James Cuff wrote: > > [...] > >> So here it is, a new name for what we do >> >> H{P,T}(R,A,T)C > And I thought my regex skills dropped by half when I went all PHB-like :D > > For those unaware: PHB == Pointy Haired Boss from

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 04/15/2013 03:36 PM, Adam DeConinck wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 03:17:52PM -0400, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: >> "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where >> utlilization one of the computer subsystems (proce

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 04/15/2013 03:17 PM, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: > "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where > utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, > network, etc), is at or near 100% capacity for extended periods of time." > > Could my laptop exhibit sym

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Joe Landman
On 04/15/2013 02:46 PM, James Cuff wrote: [...] > So here it is, a new name for what we do > > H{P,T}(R,A,T)C And I thought my regex skills dropped by half when I went all PHB-like :D For those unaware: PHB == Pointy Haired Boss from the Dilbert comics, which is something of a stretch if

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Adam DeConinck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 03:17:52PM -0400, Max R. Dechantsreiter wrote: > "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where > utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, > network, etc), is at or near 100% capa

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Mark Hahn
> "High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where > utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, > network, etc), is at or near 100% capacity for extended periods of time." > > Could my laptop exhibit symptoms of HPC, as you defined them? depends on your l

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Max R. Dechantsreiter
"High performance computing (HPC) is a form of computer usage where utlilization one of the computer subsystems (processor, ram, disk, network, etc), is at or near 100% capacity for extended periods of time." Could my laptop exhibit symptoms of HPC, as you defined them? Regards, Max

Re: [Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread James Cuff
> In response to Jeff Layton's article on using the cloud for HPC (link > below), there's been a discussion on whether there should be a new term > used in this case to replace 'HPC', such as 'research computing' which > Jeff used in his articles. I say no. We just need to reconsider how we > defin

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 04/15/2013 02:04 PM, Ashley Pittman wrote: > On 14 Apr 2013, at 10:01, Jonathan Dursi wrote: > >> I cannot agree with this piece highly enough. >> >> Widespread cloud availability, GPU, etc, has enabled all sorts of weird, >> wacky, and _useful_ large-scale technical computing use cases, and a

[Beowulf] Definition of HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Prentice Bisbal
In response to Jeff Layton's article on using the cloud for HPC (link below), there's been a discussion on whether there should be a new term used in this case to replace 'HPC', such as 'research computing' which Jeff used in his articles. I say no. We just need to reconsider how we define HPC.

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Joe Landman
On 4/15/13 1:58 PM, James Cuff wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Douglas Eadline > wrote: >> >>> Finally a well balanced, hype free article by respected industry expert >>> Jeff Layton: >>> >>> http://www.admin-magazine.com/HPC/articles/the_cloud_s_role_in_hpc >> Excuse me James for hijack

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Ashley Pittman
On 14 Apr 2013, at 10:01, Jonathan Dursi wrote: > I cannot agree with this piece highly enough. > > Widespread cloud availability, GPU, etc, has enabled all sorts of weird, > wacky, and _useful_ large-scale technical computing use cases, and arguing > about whether new use case X is "really"

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread James Cuff
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > > > > Finally a well balanced, hype free article by respected industry expert > > Jeff Layton: > > > > http://www.admin-magazine.com/HPC/articles/the_cloud_s_role_in_hpc > > Excuse me James for hijacking your post. I'll try to be brief. > I

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Douglas Eadline
> Finally a well balanced, hype free article by respected industry expert > Jeff Layton: > > http://www.admin-magazine.com/HPC/articles/the_cloud_s_role_in_hpc Excuse me James for hijacking your post. I'll try to be brief. I want to chime in on the copy and paste to the list issue using this stor

Re: [Beowulf] Cloud / HPC

2013-04-15 Thread Hearns, John
On 04/14/2013 12:46 PM, James Cuff wrote: > > Finally a well balanced,hype free article by respected industry expert > Jeff Layton: > > http://www.admin-magazine.com/HPC/articles/the_cloud_s_role_in_hpc Just read it. This is a very good article. "I consider cloud computing a tool or technique