Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Bill Broadley
On 01/12/2013 07:29 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > Yes i was the inventor of that test to jump using a RNG randomly. > Paul Hsieh then modified it from calling the RNG and correcting for > the RNG, to the direct pointer math as you show here. Oh come now Vincent, inventor is a very strong word fo

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Bill Broadley
On 01/12/2013 04:25 PM, Stu Midgley wrote: > Until the Phi's came along, we were purchasing 1RU, 4 sockets nodes > with 6276's and 256GB ram. On all our codes, we found the throughput > to be greater than any equivalent density Sandy bridge systems > (usually 2 x dual socket in 1RU) at about 10-15

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Stu Midgley
Until the Phi's came along, we were purchasing 1RU, 4 sockets nodes with 6276's and 256GB ram. On all our codes, we found the throughput to be greater than any equivalent density Sandy bridge systems (usually 2 x dual socket in 1RU) at about 10-15% less energy and about 1/3 the price for the actua

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
This shows your total ignorence. At the time several manufacturers claimed specific latencies when running random through their SSI setups. So actually *after* i designed the test... ...which for example proved SGI to have hardware factor 12 slower than they claimed to have delivered... A

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Mark Hahn
> If you call that 'full of yourself', i realize what sort of > 'scientist' you are. Vincent, randomly shuffling a pointer chain is obvious, and has been done many times before you did it. ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Pengui

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
Not a single test in HPC tested memory with more than 1 core at the time. There were a few pingpong latency tests getting performed single core by some manufacturers using a raw sort of implementation which wasn't very realistic. For software engineers to optimize his software it's crucial

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Mark Hahn
> Yes i was the inventor of that test to jump using a RNG randomly. > Paul Hsieh then modified it from calling the RNG and correcting for > the RNG, to the direct pointer math > as you show here. Vincent, you are hillariously full of yourself. > If you are using 32 bits ints however, you'll not b

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Jan 12, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Bill Broadley wrote: > > On 01/11/2013 05:22 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:> >>> Bill - a 2 socket system doesn't deliver 512GB ram. >> > On 01/11/2013 05:59 AM, Reuti wrote: >> Maybe I get it wrong, but I was checking these machines recently: >> >> IBM's x3550 M4 goes

Re: [Beowulf] AMD performance (was 500GB systems)

2013-01-12 Thread Bill Broadley
On 01/11/2013 05:22 AM, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:> >> Bill - a 2 socket system doesn't deliver 512GB ram. > On 01/11/2013 05:59 AM, Reuti wrote: > Maybe I get it wrong, but I was checking these machines recently: > > IBM's x3550 M4 goes up to 768 GB with 2 CPUs > http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common

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