Re: [Beowulf] warewulf - cannot log into nodes

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
On 11/20/12 10:49 AM, Duke Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > So I was able to try warewulf to boot up our nodes following this > guide: > http://hpc.admin-magazine.com/Articles/Warewulf-Cluster-Manager-Master-and-Compute-Nodes. > > I got everything running up to the final step: log into node. The n

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, Christopher Samuel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 20/11/12 05:23, Robert G. Brown wrote: > >> I don't know if these cache sizes are per core or per system, > > Install hwloc and run lstopo.. :-) > > http://www.open-mpi.org/projects/hwloc/ Way

[Beowulf] warewulf - cannot log into nodes

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
Hi folks, So I was able to try warewulf to boot up our nodes following this guide: http://hpc.admin-magazine.com/Articles/Warewulf-Cluster-Manager-Master-and-Compute-Nodes. I got everything running up to the final step: log into node. The node (192.168.200.2) is up, showing up log in screen on

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/11/12 01:28, Douglas Eadline wrote: > Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned > that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. Whilst sad (and possibly inaccurate) it wouldn't surprise me if they did that in the long te

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > Intel has a single socket Xeon (E3-12XX series Sandy/Ivy-Bridge) > and will work on single socket motherboards. Mostly designed for > the small office/home server these have more "server" features, > basically ECC, and cost slightly more than the i-5/7

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Joe Landman
On 11/19/2012 08:58 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> >> On 11/19/2012 03:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >>> But I have to give Intel soem major geek credit. Bringing the original >>> Star Trek bridge to SC12 was the highlight of the show. And yes I sat >>> in Kirk's chair and have the pictures to pro

Re: [Beowulf] PXEBoot struggling

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
On 11/19/12 10:54 PM, Duke Nguyen wrote: > On 11/19/12 9:43 PM, Joe Landman wrote: >> If you don't want the headache of re-inventing this wheel yourself, I'd >> recommend the Warewulf distribution http://warewulf.lbl.gov/trac . One >> of the best around for this stuff. >> > On 11/19/12 8:04 PM, Tr

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Administrator wrote: > On 19/11/12 22:43, graham.mull...@syngenta.com wrote: > >> Next you'll say that the old guys are the ones who have used punched cards > > and know (well, maybe knew) the different between Fortran 66 and 77. > > Or can remember the wild party we threw whe

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/11/12 11:03, Robert G. Brown wrote: > Way cool. I wonder where they pull the data from if not proc. /sys :-) Well, that and various syscalls I think (especially on other OS's). > Of course, being as how it is open source, if I wondered enoug

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> > On 11/19/2012 03:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >> But I have to give Intel soem major geek credit. Bringing the original >> Star Trek bridge to SC12 was the highlight of the show. And yes I sat >> in Kirk's chair and have the pictures to prove it. > > Interesting... I found that insulting. The

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
Nah.. you just slide the other disk into the drive of the 1130 to run the second compiler pass. Who needs that much extra memory anyway. Jim Lux -Original Message- From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On Behalf Of Administrator Sent: Monday, November

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
No, it's if you know the difference between an 026 and 029 keypunch. Bonus points if you know how to do multipunch on a 026 to get parenthesis for a machine that's expecting 029. If you're a real stud geek, you used a drum card, so you could "tab" to column 7. Jim Lux -Original Message---

[Beowulf] Forbes: Intel CEO Fall Signals Move To ARM [...]

2012-11-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Interesting news, given what I wrote earlier.. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbaptiste/2012/11/19/intel-ceo-fall-signals-move-to-arm-closer-ties-with-apple/ # The change of leadership at Intel could bring a real # sea change for the entire semicondu

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Sabuj Pattanayek
>From the URL in the original post : Updated 11/19/2012@10:15am: AMD contacted us with an official denial of the story and stated that Kaveri and the big cores are still on track. ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org sponsored by Penguin Computi

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Administrator
On 19/11/12 22:43, graham.mull...@syngenta.com wrote: > Next you'll say that the old guys are the ones who have used punched cards > and know (well, maybe knew) the different between Fortran 66 and 77. Or can remember the wild party we threw when we increased core from 4K to 8K P.S. What's

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/11/12 05:23, Robert G. Brown wrote: > I don't know if these cache sizes are per core or per system, Install hwloc and run lstopo.. :-) http://www.open-mpi.org/projects/hwloc/ - -- Christopher SamuelSenior Systems Administrator VLSC

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread graham.mullier
RGB wrote: "No, it is only the OLD GUYS like me and Doug that were kids when Star Trek first appeared and have the proper degree of nostalgic geekery. " I wasn't feeling old until I read that. Next you'll say that the old guys are the ones who have used punched cards and know (well, maybe knew)

Re: [Beowulf] PXE boot with X7DWT-INF IB onboard card

2012-11-19 Thread Christopher Samuel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 19/11/12 19:19, Duke Nguyen wrote: > Thanks for your very honest advice! Unfortunately it is not > similar situation like in US, where we can find companies with > appropriate services to help and assist us. You might want to look at trying xCAT,

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > > On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>> If you measure memory latency at all 8 cores at the same time, it's >>> even more horrible. >> >> Thanks for a remarkably clear and useful

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Prentice Bisbal wrote: > > On 11/19/2012 03:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >> But I have to give Intel soem major geek credit. Bringing the original >> Star Trek bridge to SC12 was the highlight of the show. And yes I sat >> in Kirk's chair and have the pictures to prove it. >

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Prentice Bisbal
On 11/19/2012 03:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > But I have to give Intel soem major geek credit. Bringing the original > Star Trek bridge to SC12 was the highlight of the show. And yes I sat > in Kirk's chair and have the pictures to prove it. Interesting... I found that insulting. The typical

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> On 11/19/2012 09:28 AM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >>> Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned >>> that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. >>> >>> http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> >>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: >>> Intel has a single socket Xeon (E3-12XX series Sandy/Ivy-Bridge) and will work on single socket motherboards. Mostly designed for >>

Re: [Beowulf] PXEBoot struggling

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
On 11/19/12 9:43 PM, Joe Landman wrote: > If you don't want the headache of re-inventing this wheel yourself, I'd > recommend the Warewulf distribution http://warewulf.lbl.gov/trac . One > of the best around for this stuff. > On 11/19/12 8:04 PM, Tru Huynh wrote: > You could ease your way and try

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread xingqiu yuan
About ten years ago, when we choose CPUs for supercomputer in our supercomputer center. AMD cpus have much better performance than Intel cpus. It is a great pity to hear this news, although I hope this will NOT be true...It is good to have choice instead of only one On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Joe Landman
On 11/19/2012 03:07 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >> of course the article was amended at 10:15am to say that AMD contacted >> them to say that Kaveri and the big cores are still on track. Good. They do have value, and I'd hate to see them leave this market. They do need to fix a few things though

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On 11/19/2012 09:28 AM, Douglas Eadline wrote: >> Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned >> that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. >> >> http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri-steamroller-and-excavator/ >> >> > of course the article was

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: >> >>> Intel has a single socket Xeon (E3-12XX series Sandy/Ivy-Bridge) >>> and will work on single socket motherboards. Mostly designed for >>> the small office/home server these have more "server" featur

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >> >> On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> If you measure memory latency at all 8 cores at the same time, it's ev

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> Intel has a single socket Xeon (E3-12XX series Sandy/Ivy-Bridge) >> and will work on single socket motherboards. Mostly designed for >> the small office/home server these have more "server" features, >> basically ECC, and cost slightly more than t

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >> If you measure memory latency at all 8 cores at the same time, it's >> even more horrible. > > Thanks for a remarkably clear and useful reply, Vincent. This nearly > precisely mirrors my own measurements with a more floating point > intensive t

Re: [Beowulf] PXEBoot struggling

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
On 11/19/12 8:04 PM, Tru Huynh wrote: >> So to summarize: >> * boot using liveCD -> OK, logging in fine >> * boot using rsync of master node's system -> OK, cant log in > SElinux is probably on the way, did you relabel? Interesting. Since I am familiar with debian-based distros, these selinux

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >> If you measure memory latency at all 8 cores at the same time, it's >> even more horrible. > > Thanks for a remarkably clear and useful reply, Vincent. This nearly > precisely mirrors my own

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > If you measure memory latency at all 8 cores at the same time, it's > even more horrible. Thanks for a remarkably clear and useful reply, Vincent. This nearly precisely mirrors my own measurements with a more floating point intensive task. The lar

Re: [Beowulf] Mont-Blanc supercomputer powered by Samsung's Exynos

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
"The Mali-T604 is the first GPU based on the Midgard architecture and offers scalability from one to four cores." Assuming a single core doesn't have 'minicores' of some sort i wish them lots of fun with this. The Cortex A15 quadcore under full load eats 6 watts is expectation now. That's do

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > >> >> Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned >> that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. >> >> http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri- >>

[Beowulf] Mont-Blanc supercomputer powered by Samsung's Exynos

2012-11-19 Thread Eugen Leitl
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/67548-mont-blanc-supercomputer-powered-by-samsungs-exynos Mont-Blanc supercomputer powered by Samsung's Exynos Posted on November 17, 2012 - 10:00 by Trent Nouveau The European-based Mont-Blanc project has selected Samsung's flagship Exynos platform as t

Re: [Beowulf] PXEBoot struggling

2012-11-19 Thread Joe Landman
On 11/19/2012 03:43 AM, Duke Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > So per advices and suggestions, we started to look for booting our nodes > throught Gbit Ethernet. The OS of our choice is Scientific Linux 6.3 - > SL6.3 (for all master and client nodes). There are bunches of > guides/instructions out ther

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Joe Landman
On 11/19/2012 09:28 AM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > > Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned > that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. > > http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri-steamroller-and-excavator/ /sigh Hoping this is a low signal co

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Question becomes is how is the graphics card division doing. I think that is what is keeping them a float. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > > > > > Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned > > that AM

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Douglas Eadline wrote: > > Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned > that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. > > http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri-steamroller-and-excavator/ Hi Doug, Sad, but not surprising at th

Re: [Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
If AMD sells the GPU division and sells patents they own in x64 then of course the best thing to do is pay out all that cash to the shareholders and liquidate the company. On Nov 19, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Douglas Eadline wrote: > > Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned

[Beowulf] More AMD rumors

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
Though not formally announced, Semiaccurate seems to have learned that AMD is leaving the X86 server business. http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/19/amd-kills-off-big-cores-kaveri-steamroller-and-excavator/ -- Doug -- Mailscanner: Clean ___ Beowulf m

Re: [Beowulf] PXE boot with X7DWT-INF IB onboard card

2012-11-19 Thread Douglas Eadline
> On 11/13/12 3:32 PM, Beat Rubischon wrote: >> "PXE Boot" is a nice container (buzzword? :-) for a hand full of simple >> steps. First the PXE Boot ROM asks for a DHCP address, second it will >> load PXElinux over tftp. PXElinux will ask again for a configuration >> file and finally loads the ker

[Beowulf] PXEBoot struggling

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
Hi folks, So per advices and suggestions, we started to look for booting our nodes throught Gbit Ethernet. The OS of our choice is Scientific Linux 6.3 - SL6.3 (for all master and client nodes). There are bunches of guides/instructions out there in the net, but I focused and learnt from mainl

[Beowulf] Vietnam

2012-11-19 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Duke Nguyen wrote: > > Thanks for your very honest advice! Unfortunately it is not similar > situation like in US, where we can find companies with appropriate > services to help and assist us. In Vietnam, where we are now, cluster > systems are already rare. In fact I

Re: [Beowulf] PXE boot with X7DWT-INF IB onboard card

2012-11-19 Thread Duke Nguyen
On 11/13/12 3:32 PM, Beat Rubischon wrote: > "PXE Boot" is a nice container (buzzword? :-) for a hand full of simple > steps. First the PXE Boot ROM asks for a DHCP address, second it will > load PXElinux over tftp. PXElinux will ask again for a configuration > file and finally loads the kernel and