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> -Original Message-
> From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On
> Behalf Of Joe Landman
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:10 PM
> To: beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Storage - the end of RAID?
>
> RAID IS NOT A BACKUP (can't say how many tim
On 10/29/10 15:48, Greg Lindahl wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:02:45PM -0400, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
I think it's making a pretty wild assumption to say search engines and
HPC have the same I/O needs (and thus can use the same I/O setups).
Well, I'm an HPC guy doing infrastructure for
On 10/29/2010 03:02 PM, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
On 10/29/10 13:18, Greg Lindahl wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:42:39PM +0100, Hearns, John wrote:
Quite a perceptive article on ZDnet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/the-end-of-raid/1154?tag=nl.e539
This has been going on for a long ti
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:02:45PM -0400, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
> I think it's making a pretty wild assumption to say search engines and
> HPC have the same I/O needs (and thus can use the same I/O setups).
Well, I'm an HPC guy doing infrastructure for a search engine, so I'm
not assuming
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:46:35PM -0400, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
>>> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/the-end-of-raid/1154?tag=nl.e539
> The major issue I see with the article is that the author refers to RAID
> being "dead" when really he should be saying RAID 2-6 is less preferable
> to R
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:46:35PM -0400, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
> Drives (of the commodity variety) are pretty darn cheap already. I'd be
> surprised if this (RAID 1) isn't the better solution today (rather than
> RAID2-6), rather than some point in the future.
Um, it's not really RAID
On 10/29/10 13:18, Greg Lindahl wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:42:39PM +0100, Hearns, John wrote:
Quite a perceptive article on ZDnet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/the-end-of-raid/1154?tag=nl.e539
This has been going on for a long time. Blekko has 5 petabytes of
disk, and no RAID any
On 10/29/10 14:06, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
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From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On
Behalf Of Hearns, John
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:43 AM
To: beowulf@beowulf.org
Subject: [Beowulf] Storage - the end of RAID?
Quite a perceptive a
> -Original Message-
> From: beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org [mailto:beowulf-boun...@beowulf.org] On
> Behalf Of Hearns, John
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:43 AM
> To: beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: [Beowulf] Storage - the end of RAID?
>
> Quite a perceptive article on ZDnet
>
> http://
Jim Lux
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> -Original Message-
> From: Robert G. Brown [mailto:r...@phy.duke.edu]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 10:37 AM
> To: Lux, Jim (337C)
> Cc: Ellis H. Wilson III; beowulf@beowulf.org
> Subject: Re: [Beowulf] Re: Interesting
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Lux, Jim (337C
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
Or, how about something like the UNICON aka "terabit memory" (TBM) from
Illiac IV days. It's a stable polyester base with a thin film of rhodium
that was ablated by a laser making 3 micron holes to write the bits. $3.5M
to store a terabit in 1975.
B
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 05:42:39PM +0100, Hearns, John wrote:
> Quite a perceptive article on ZDnet
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/the-end-of-raid/1154?tag=nl.e539
This has been going on for a long time. Blekko has 5 petabytes of
disk, and no RAID anywhere. RAID went out with SQL. Kinda
With regard to the comment:
> Do you really think you're going to program these machines
> with something other than MPI?
Exactly, that is another facet of the same debate about the future:
the need for a shift that encompasses both programming language, execution
model and interconnect hardware.
> Define "real" applications,
Something that produces tangible, scientifically useful results that would not
have otherwise been realized without the availability and capability of that
machine.
> but to give my guess at your question "But they didn't. Why?"
>
> One word - cost
Well, that's
Quite a perceptive article on ZDnet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/the-end-of-raid/1154?tag=nl.e539
Class, discuss.
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Ellis H. Wilson III wrote:
Interestingly, I found "Keeping Bits Safe: How Hard Can It Be?" by David
Rosenthal in the November Communications of the ACM just released.
It does discuss data retention at the centuries level, but unfortunately does
not consider the moon-based
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 at 00:11 -, Richard Chang wrote:
> On 10/22/2010 11:26 PM, Alex Chekholko wrote:
> > The RH HPC mailing list suggests this project is inactive:
> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/rhel-hpc-list/
>
> I didn't check that. I never knew that an inactive mailing list
> means an
On 29 Oct 2010, at 15:49, Lux, Jim (337C) wrote:
> So, if you want your flash to hold forever, you'll have to periodically
> rewrite it. Say you rewrote every year, you'd get 10,000-100,000 years
> before you "wore out" the flash.
>
> There are other aging effects: diffusion of metal ions, etc.
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 at 11:26 -, Hearns, John wrote:
> > might well last to the end of civilization. Replicate them a few
> > million times, PERPETUATE them from generation to generation by
> > renewing the copies, and backing them up, and recopying them in
> > formats where they are still use
> You're asking the CS department (full of researchers wanting
> to do novel research for their dissertation or to move them
> towards tenure) to be sysadmins. Being an SA is fun, once.
An IT guy here: A challenge at my institution is that these systems are
usually by faculty or by un
Robert,
I would go for virtualizing the cluster as single system (virtual SMP) and then
using local I/O - just as we all run MPI apps on large SMPs years ago.
Specifically, vSMP Foundation (www.scalemp.com) provides great scratch
performance with local drives (use Linux raid utilities to make RA
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a Dongarra interview [with a nice photo on Dongarra] only stated, "The Chinese
designed their own interconnect. It's not commodity. It's based on chips, based
on a router, based on a switch that they produce."
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20021122-64.html
On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:
Yes, the petroleum industry is using GPUs in production. At Hess Corporation,
we have our main seismic imaging codes running in production on nvidia GPUs. I
have several presentations you can find on the internet, if you want details.
There are several other companies with some similar success
On Oct 28, 2010, at 11:26 AM, Bill Rankin wrote:
> [...]
> What this machine does do is validate to some extent the continued use and
> development of GPUs in an HPC/cluster setting.
> [...]
Nvidia claims Tianhe-1A's 4.04 megawatts of CUDA GPUs and Xeon CPUs is three
times more power efficien
Bill Rankin wrote:
Douglas:
[...]
What this machine does do is validate to some extent the continued
use and development of GPUs in an HPC/cluster setting.
[...]
Nvidia claims Tianhe-1A's 4.04 megawatts of CUDA GPUs and Xeon CPUs is
three times more power efficient than
On 10/29/10 6:50 AM, "Ellis H. Wilson III" wrote:
> Interestingly, I found "Keeping Bits Safe: How Hard Can It Be?" by David
> Rosenthal in the November Communications of the ACM just released.
>
> It does discuss data retention at the centuries level, but unfortunately
> does not consider th
> -Original Message-
>
> I guess that we don't think too much these days about the archival
> properties of paper and pen, simply because it's seemingly so much
more
> stable than the various computer formats. I wonder how resistant to
> aging modern printer/copier paper is versus its o
Douglas:
> > [...]
> > What this machine does do is validate to some extent the continued
> use and development of GPUs in an HPC/cluster setting.
> > [...]
>
> Nvidia claims Tianhe-1A's 4.04 megawatts of CUDA GPUs and Xeon CPUs is
> three times more power efficient than CPUs alone. The Nvidia p
> "Robert G. Brown" wrote:
>
> > I've lost stories I've
> > written on paper, and a really cool poem that I wrote with a pen popular
> > in the 70's that turned out to have ink that faded to clear over 20
> > year, with or without the help of ambient UV. I have spiral notebooks
> > from graduate
Its their own new proprietary interconnect, runs at 80Gb/s (similar
speed to IB 8x), switches are low port count. What the article missed is
that they are also using their own CPUs and host chipset (along with
Intel) in that system as well.
Gilad
-Original Message-
From: beowulf-boun...@
Interestingly, I found "Keeping Bits Safe: How Hard Can It Be?" by David
Rosenthal in the November Communications of the ACM just released.
It does discuss data retention at the centuries level, but unfortunately
does not consider the moon-based strategy proposed by Rob. Nonetheless
is a good
> [...]and if its users are ordinary or not.
>
> -- greg
In my experience very few people in this business would ever be called
"ordinary". :-)
-b
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