Re: [Beowulf] Home Beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
this is quite an interesting read. it talks about the entry level i5 and compares them to the i7s. granted its comparing the 2 you will learn alot about the i7s as well. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/22151-intel-lynnfield-core-i5-750-core-i7-870-processor-review.htm

Re: [Beowulf] Re: RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Hahn
3) Be aware that the kernel you are using will make a big difference and that the semantics for ext3 have changed a while ago so that it no longer uses data=ordered but instead uses data=writeback by default (you can override AFAIKT, it's just an option for the default mount config now that wasn

Re: [Beowulf] Re: RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Chris Samuel
- "Tomislav Maric" wrote: > Well, I don't need too much scratch space, the important part of the > disk is the /home with the results. What file system should I use for > it, ext3? A couple of things to bear in mind.. 1) If you are using LVM on top of RAID you will need to tell the mkfs co

Re: [Beowulf] RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Chris Samuel
- "Tomislav Maric" wrote: > How do you mean differences in config? I'm configuring the master, > and the other nodes are to be diskless.. I have separated these > partitions: > /swap /boot / /var and /home. Is this ok? Yes, that's fine, there are 2 reasons to stick with partitions in the

Re: [Beowulf] RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:27:25PM -0700, Greg Kurtzer wrote: > Yes, I think we are in total agreement just saying it differently. > > Generally there is the core library stack and the rest... The core > stack should NOT be rebuilt by the end users especially with > non-standard compilers and/or

Re: [Beowulf] Disappointing floating point performance for X5560 versus SPECmarks?

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Hahn
However, our own benchmarking using nbench, unixbench, and a home-grown utility (twobod) all show that any differences are attributed to clock speed. do you have any sense for whether these are entirely in-cache benchmarks? that's the most obvious explanation. nehalem is all about the new memor

Re: [Beowulf] Best Practices SOL vs Cyclades ACS

2009-10-13 Thread Mark Hahn
Do you have SOL on the HP DL145-G2 ? to be honest, I've never tried it. our machines came with HP's XC distro, which includes a console logging/terminal command. it appears to use the telnet interface, though, not ipmi sol. I also have these nodes, and although I can use most ipmi function

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Prentice Bisbal
Robert G. Brown wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Hearns, John wrote: > >> To use seawater to cool a room safely it would have to be well isolated, >> exchanging heat with a loop of much more innocuous fluid that actually >> enters the room. > > Check out the Duke Marine Lab website. They basical

RE: [Beowulf] Re: Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Hearns, John wrote: To use seawater to cool a room safely it would have to be well isolated, exchanging heat with a loop of much more innocuous fluid that actually enters the room. Check out the Duke Marine Lab website. They basically do this, via geothermal exchange unit

Re: [Beowulf] Re: Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Scott Atchley
On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:06 PM, David Mathog wrote: A sprinkler leak in a computer room is bad, but just imagine the damage that seawater would do. Even a fine mist would be dreadful, as it would be sucked through the cases and the droplets would either short things out immediately, or lead i

Re: [Beowulf] RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Greg Kurtzer
Hi Greg, On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Greg Lindahl wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:50:10AM -0700, Greg Kurtzer wrote: > >> The underlying components that make up a distribution are in-fact an >> important component to an HPC system in its entirety. There are many >> reasons for this, but

Re: [Beowulf] Home Beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Dmitry Zaletnev
Hi, may be somebody will find interesting this CFD perfomance tests for different desktop i7/memory configs: http://techreport.com/articles.x/15967/4 Sincerely, Dmitry > > On Behalf Of Dmitry Zaletnev > > > > I just thinking about a 2-nodes Beowulf for a CFD application that > > reads/writes

RE: [Beowulf] Re: Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Hearns, John
To use seawater to cool a room safely it would have to be well isolated, exchanging heat with a loop of much more innocuous fluid that actually enters the room. Dave, I really think that is how you would do it. I was a bit loose in terminology. You don't pump the raw cooling water from your privat

Re: [Beowulf] RAID for home beowulf

2009-10-13 Thread Nifty Tom Mitchell
All good points for a larger project, yet less interesting for a personal cluster when the budget is small and the personal desktop and personal work environment is Ubuntu. I do suspect that in 18 months or so the original poster will be looking to update his environment and your good summary w

[Beowulf] Re: Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread David Mathog
A sprinkler leak in a computer room is bad, but just imagine the damage that seawater would do. Even a fine mist would be dreadful, as it would be sucked through the cases and the droplets would either short things out immediately, or lead inevitably to corroded metal throughout the machine. To us

Re: [Beowulf] recommendation on crash cart for a cluster room: fullcluster KVM is not an option I suppose?

2009-10-13 Thread Gerry Creager
Don Holmgren wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Prentice Bisbal wrote: Mark Hahn wrote: Even with IPMI, you still need a crash cart of some type to initially set up IPMI in the system's BIOS. At the minimum, you need to set the IP address that the IMPI interface will listen on (if it's a shared NI

Re: [Beowulf] recommendation on crash cart for a cluster room: fullcluster KVM is not an option I suppose?

2009-10-13 Thread Don Holmgren
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Prentice Bisbal wrote: Mark Hahn wrote: Even with IPMI, you still need a crash cart of some type to initially set up IPMI in the system's BIOS. At the minimum, you need to set the IP address that the IMPI interface will listen on (if it's a shared NIC afaik, not really.

Re: [Beowulf] recommendation on crash cart for a cluster room: fullcluster KVM is not an option I suppose?

2009-10-13 Thread Prentice Bisbal
Mark Hahn wrote: >> Even with IPMI, you still need a crash cart of some type to initially >> set up IPMI in the system's BIOS. At the minimum, you need to set the IP >> address that the IMPI interface will listen on (if it's a shared NIC > > afaik, not really. here's what I prefer: cluster nodes

RE: [Beowulf] Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Hearns, John
I don't know about the wave power but the cooling power of the ocean or sea water is pretty good idea to look at. And add to that the Container based DC designs, you can have a very efficient Underwater DC. The only problem will be physically accessing the DC. Or you can simply build your DC n

Re: [Beowulf] Ahoy shipmates

2009-10-13 Thread Tim Cutts
On 12 Oct 2009, at 9:33 pm, Marian Marinov wrote: I don't know about the wave power but the cooling power of the ocean or sea water is pretty good idea to look at. Isn't sea water fairly corrosive? You get severe electrolytic corrosion problems on boats, hence the big lump of zinc on a y