[Beowulf] Windows in top 10

2008-11-20 Thread Greg Lindahl
A while back a customer of PathScale issued a press release about how they were running Windows on their supercomputer, with InfiniPath interconnect. We were kinda surprised, since we didn't have Windows drivers. So I was curious about the Dawning 5000A... the previous supercomputers in this serie

Re: [Beowulf] OpenMP on AMD dual core processors

2008-11-20 Thread Joe Landman
Nathan Moore wrote: Any suggestions? I figured that this would be a simple example to parallelize. Is there a better example for OpenMP parallelization? Also, is there something obvious I'm missing in the example below? A few thoughts ... Initialize your data in parallel as well. No rea

[Beowulf] OpenMP on AMD dual core processors

2008-11-20 Thread Nathan Moore
Hi All, I'm getting to the end of a semester of computational physics at my institution, and thought it would be fin to close the semester with a discussion of parallel programming. Initially, I was simply planning to discuss MPI, but while reading through the gfortran man page I realized that gc

Re: [Beowulf] Badness in Shanghai upgrade

2008-11-20 Thread Bill Broadley
Greg Lindahl wrote: > I had been planning for a long time to upgrade a bunch of my AMD > dual-core systems to quad-cores when quad-cores were cheap enough -- > same socket, no problem, right? > > Well, the motherboard that I have apparently doesn't supply quite > enough power to the memory Same d

[Beowulf] Badness in Shanghai upgrade

2008-11-20 Thread Greg Lindahl
I had been planning for a long time to upgrade a bunch of my AMD dual-core systems to quad-cores when quad-cores were cheap enough -- same socket, no problem, right? Well, the motherboard that I have apparently doesn't supply quite enough power to the memory when it's being driven by a Shanghai qu

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Joe Landman
Mark Hahn wrote: [shameless plug] A project I have spent some time with is showing 117x on a 3-GPU machine over a single core of a host machine (3.0 GHz Opteron ). The code is mpihmmer, and the GPU version of it. See http://www.mpihmmer.org for more details. Ping me offline if you need

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Gerry Creager
Mark Hahn wrote: Ellis, I can't say re. the Firestream cards, but for Nvidia the answer is a resounding yes. AMD had some PR recently (check the reg and inq) about supporting their stream stuff across the whole product line, including chipset-integrated gpus. that seems intelligent, given th

Re: Re[2]: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
On Nov 20, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Jan Heichler wrote: Hallo Mark, Donnerstag, 20. November 2008, meintest Du: >> [shameless plug] >> A project I have spent some time with is showing 117x on a 3-GPU machine over >> a single core of a host machine (3.0 GHz Opteron ). The code is

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Jeff Layton
>> what I understand GPUs are useful only with certain classes of numerical >> problems and discretization schemes, and of course the code must be > I think it's fair to say that GPUs are good for graphics-like loads, > or more generally: fairly small data, accessed data-parallel or with > very

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Jeff Layton
I disagree with Mark on investing into GP-GPUs. I think it's a good thing to do for the simple reason of understanding the programming model. I've been watching people work with GP-GPUs for several years and there is always this big hump that they have to get over - understanding how to take the

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Alan Louis Scheinine
Mark Hahn wrote: OTOH, GP-GPU has obviously drained much of the interest away from eg FPGA computation. I don't know whether there is still enough interest in vector computers to drain anything... Joe Landman replied: Hmmm There is a (micro)vector machine in your CPU anyway. What is mis

Re: Re[2]: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread John Hearns
2008/11/20 Jan Heichler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > What does it help that 3 GPUs are 1000x faster than a Asus Eee PC? > > I read on HPCwire that SGI are demoing a concept machine made of stuffing 1000's of Atom processors in a rack. Seems to me. to be honest. to be bucking the current trends. Has

Re[2]: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Jan Heichler
Hallo Mark, Donnerstag, 20. November 2008, meintest Du: >> [shameless plug] >> A project I have spent some time with is showing 117x on a 3-GPU machine >> over >> a single core of a host machine (3.0 GHz Opteron ). The code is >> mpihmmer, and the GPU version of it. See http://www.mpihm

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread John Hearns
> > I'm happy for you, but to me, you're stacking the deck by comparing to a > quite old CPU. you could break out the prices directly, but comparing 3x > GPU (modern? sounds like pci-express at least) Mark, all CUDA capable cards are PCI-Express. (off the top of my head). > to a current entr

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Mark Hahn
[shameless plug] A project I have spent some time with is showing 117x on a 3-GPU machine over a single core of a host machine (3.0 GHz Opteron ). The code is mpihmmer, and the GPU version of it. See http://www.mpihmmer.org for more details. Ping me offline if you need more info. [/sh

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Joe Landman
Quick intervention from SC08 show Mark Hahn wrote: As we know by now GPUs can run some problems many times faster than CPUs it's good to cultivate some skepticism. the paper that quotes 40x does so with a somewhat tilted comparison. (I consider this comparison fair: a host with 2x 3.2 GHz QC

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Mark Hahn
As we know by now GPUs can run some problems many times faster than CPUs it's good to cultivate some skepticism. the paper that quotes 40x does so with a somewhat tilted comparison. (I consider this comparison fair: a host with 2x 3.2 GHz QC Core2 vs 1 current high-end CPU card. former deliver

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Mark Hahn
Ellis, I can't say re. the Firestream cards, but for Nvidia the answer is a resounding yes. AMD had some PR recently (check the reg and inq) about supporting their stream stuff across the whole product line, including chipset-integrated gpus. that seems intelligent, given that lines between CP

Re: [Beowulf] What class of PDEs/numerical schemes suitable for GPU clusters

2008-11-20 Thread Peter St. John
Regarding the hyperbolic (etc) classification of PDEs: you may want qualitative theory instead of (or in additon to) number crunching. I'd suggest stopping over at UC Davis, where I count at least half a dozen PDE folks in the applied math program (more if you count the turbulence and fluid dynami