Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"es

2008-06-21 Thread Perry E. Metzger
"Robert G. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> If they can't use public key auth, give 'em secure ids or something >> similar. Works fine or such purposes. Passwords are dead. > > Yeah, Bill Gates (among others) said something like that back in 2004. > I confess to being deeply skeptical. Reall

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Sat, 21 Jun 2008, Geoff Jacobs wrote: Strategic nukes, no. Tactical nukes, yes. Now find an effective way of preventing a tactical exchange from escalating to a strategic exchange. Use them on an enemy that can't strike back in a strategic way and that nobody that CAN strike back in a str

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"es

2008-06-21 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote: "Robert G. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote: That limits the number of attempts that may be made against your particular machine. At the same time that they're attacking your machine, that one instance

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Gerry Creager
Geoff Galitz wrote: The MAD doctrine still applies. Attacking advancing formations with tactical nukes is still a far cry from a full-scale nuke exchange. The former is a battlefield tactic and places limited (friendly) military units in danger while the latter will destroy your labor force, p

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Peter St. John wrote: The destructive radius of Little Boy was about total, up to about one mile radius, and tapered down to light at about two miles. So being in a lead-lined steel container at 2000 meters might be OK for Indiana. In all action movies, blasts throw people

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Robert G. Brown
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Kilian CAVALOTTI wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 11:25:05 am Mike Davis wrote: According to one weapons designer the only safe way to use it was to fire from a hilltop into a valley from a jeep and then drive like hell into the next valley. Or... there's also the so-calle

Re: [Beowulf] Best training for rusty HPC skills?

2008-06-21 Thread John Leidel
I would definitely recommend heading to Supercomputing [http://sc08.supercomp.org/]. The SC education committee has also setup a program geared toward educators that holds seminars on specific subjects. There are a few within driving distance of NY this summer. http://sc08.sc-education.org/works

Re: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 03:33:19PM -0400, Lawrence Stewart wrote: > More specifically for HPC, linux seems designed for the desktop, and > for small > memory machines. Many of the decisions that made good sense in the '90s In case of embedded-RAM nodes 'small' most likely would be ~MByte sized

Re: [Beowulf] How to do a single network install

2008-06-21 Thread Chris Samuel
- "Matt Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I needed a quick way to signal back to the kickstart server that my > install was done and to boot from the hard drive next time. Our "installnode" script on the management node just watches the DHCP logs for the node requesting an address and

Re: [Beowulf] Best training for rusty HPC skills?

2008-06-21 Thread Charlie Peck
version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on quark.cs.earlham.edu On Jun 20, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Gregory R. Warnes, Ph.D. wrote: I've just been appointed to head an acadmeic computing center, after an absence from the HPC arena affor 10 years. Wha

[Beowulf] NFS v3/v4 Benchmarks

2008-06-21 Thread Anand Vaidya
Article on comparison between NFS v3 and v4 performance: http://www.linux.com/feature/138453 Regards Anand ___ Beowulf mailing list, Beowulf@beowulf.org To change your subscription (digest mode or unsubscribe) visit http://www.beowulf.org/mailman/listi

[Beowulf] Best training for rusty HPC skills?

2008-06-21 Thread Gregory R. Warnes, Ph.D.
Hi All, I've just been appointed to head an acadmeic computing center, after an absence from the HPC arena affor 10 years. What conferences/ training/seminars/books/etc would be best for refreshing my awareness of the technologies and issues? Thanks! -Greg _

Re: [Beowulf] How to do a single network install

2008-06-21 Thread James Bardin
You might want to take a look at cobbler. http://cobbler.et.redhat.com/ IIRC, cobbler won't serve a pxe boot image to machine once it's been provisioned, until you set a flag to reinstall. -jim Matt Lawrence wrote: > I needed a quick way to signal back to the kickstart server that my > install

[Beowulf] Re: SuperMicro and lm_sensors

2008-06-21 Thread Dave Love
John Hearns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can't help you on the lm_sensors front, we always use IPMI these days. For what it's worth, IPMI doesn't work in-band on SuperMicros Streamline-configured with opensuse 10.3. This fixes it after unloading the ipmi modules or rebooting: # ssh lvinfi100

[Beowulf] Re: OT: LTO Ultrium (3) throughput?

2008-06-21 Thread Brett Worth
"David Mathog" wrote: > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/nst0 bs=8192 count=1 > >only moves 21.3MB/sec. David, Are you using LTO-3 tapes? An older gen tape could do it. Also I have seen instances where /dev/zero is no longer a device but has turned into a file. Maybe a big file due to an incor

Re: [Beowulf] ECC support on motherboards?

2008-06-21 Thread Kimitoshi Takahashi
Hi Perry, So another question is, how can you reliably test any of this stuff? It isn't like you can reliably induce single bit errors and see if the hardware catches them. (A special memory module that let you test would be a wonderful thing, but I've never even heard of such a thing.) We sc

Re: NDAs Re: [Beowulf] Nvidia, cuda, tesla and... where's my double floating point?

2008-06-21 Thread Linus Harling
Vincent Diepeveen skrev: > > Then instead of a $200 pci-e card, we needed to buy expensive Tesla's > for that, without getting > very relevant indepth technical information on how to program for that > type of hardware. > > The few trying on those Tesla's, though they won't ever post this as > t

Re: [Beowulf] Powersave on Beowulf nodes

2008-06-21 Thread Eoin McHugh
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 04:26:24AM +0400, Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote: > We have many jobs in SGE at every time moment, and underload situation > (where it's reasonable to decrease CPUs frequency) is not the our > danger :-) So I'm thinking about simple stopping of all the > corresponding daemons.

RE: [Beowulf] Re: "hobbyists"

2008-06-21 Thread Geoff Galitz
The MAD doctrine still applies. Attacking advancing formations with tactical nukes is still a far cry from a full-scale nuke exchange. The former is a battlefield tactic and places limited (friendly) military units in danger while the latter will destroy your labor force, production capabilitie