Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:52:21PM -0400, Larry Stewart wrote: > On the other hand, here's a fellow who got a 4X speedup by going to hybrid: > > www.nersc.gov/nusers/services/training/classes/NUG/Jun04/NUG2004_yhe_hybrid.ppt It's always hard to evaluate how real such claims are. But I will note

Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Larry Stewart
The question of OpenMP vs MPI has been around for a long time, for example: http://www.beowulf.org/archive/2001-March/002718.html My general impression is that it is a waste of time to convert from pure MPI to a hybrid approach. For example: www.sc2000.org/techpapr/papers/pap.pap214.pdf On the

RE: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Tom Elken
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Jacobs > > Using OpenMP per node is going to be much less portable and > much more complex to implement. It's better to let your MPI > library handle things the smart way. At QLogic we're qui

Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Geoff Jacobs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using OpenMP per node is going to be much less portable and much more complex to implement. It's better to let your MPI library handle things the smart way. -- Geoffrey D. Jacobs To have no errors would be life without meaning No struggle, no joy __

Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Nathan Moore
My understanding is that on a multi-core machine, mpi communication routines (MPI_SEND, etc) are implemented as memory copy instructions. Accordingly, message passing within a multi-core node should be very fast compared to your present cluster. That said, It seems like all the performance benchm

Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Gerry Creager
Just for the record, I hate HTML-encoded e-mails. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > >> This is perhap a naive question. >> >> 10 years before we started using the SP2, but we later changed to Intel >> based linux beowulf in 2001. In our Unive

Re: [Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Li
Hello, > >This is perhap a naive question. > >10 years before we started using the SP2, but we later changed to Intel >based linux beowulf in 2001. In our University there are quite a no. of >mpi-based parallel programs running in a 178 node d

[Beowulf] CFP -- PMEO-UCNS'08 to be held with IPDPS'08

2007-10-02 Thread X.Jin
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[Beowulf] Naive question: mpi-parallel program in multicore CPUs

2007-10-02 Thread Kwan Wing Keung
This is perhap a naive question. 10 years before we started using the SP2, but we later changed to Intel based linux beowulf in 2001. In our University there are quite a no. of mpi-based parallel programs running in a 178 node dual-Xeon PC cluster that was installed 4 years ago. We are now