> http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_computing_solutions.html
If anyone wants to play with this, I just bought a low-end NVidia
8600GT for only $140, so it's not expensive to dip your toe in the
water. It's 1/8 as many cores as the top of the line.
Not to mention that the compiler is based on my
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> I don't believe that Vista's slowness has anything to do with hardware
> memory footprint.
Probably this, from page 14 of "Output Content Protection and Windows Vista"
at http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/output_protect.mspx :
> In additio
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 08:34:32AM -0700, Jon Forrest wrote:
> The Berkeley NOW project was going to do checkpoint/restart as one
> of their initial projects but it never happened. If I remember
> correctly, it turned out to be harder than they thought to do
> completely right.
Duh. The guy who r
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Robert G. Brown wrote:
> No, you misunderstand.
No, I just have a different point of view. :-)
> At this point in time, one major job of an operating system is to hide the
> details of the hardware from the programmer.
Correct - you should not need to know whether the path
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jaime Perea wrote:
> Something related, it can't be serious: Any comment from
> the experts? :-)
I love the irony of:
"In 2006, Microsoft announced the release of Windows Compute Cluster Server
(CCS) 2003"
My first thought was "oh, only 3 years late then"..
(and yes, I do
I care about multimedia systems, and I want them to work with whatever
I throw at it and not tell me what I am allowed to run.
Automated freedom-restriction devices are a real nuisance because they
are
bound to decide wrong most likely anyways, enforcing that I should have
to pay
for the same so
http://www.nvidia.com/object/tesla_computing_solutions.html
James Lux, P.E.
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Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
4800 Oak Grove Drive
Pasadena CA 91109
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I wonder how long it will be before XP is open source
I will not doubt XP's superiority in the desktop market. Although it
is not for me(I really hate putty) I do recognise it as a stable
platform for business use.
Linux still falls short in the desktop market. As a novice home user
it is
>
> This is where Vista is a major screw up. Nobody cares about DRM
> compliance but the DRM police. Nobody cares about multimedia systems,
> and since functioning multimedia now fits in $500 telephones people are
> understandably cynical about needing multicore multi GB systems to make
> it work
+1 for windows only as a 'linux application'
I wouldn't trust windows to take the lid of a can of beans that was
already open :-)
On 17/07/07, Robert G. Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Bruno Coutinho wrote:
>> >Consumers will forgive a lot, but not poor interactive perfor
On Tuesday 17 July 2007 08:31, Robert G. Brown wrote:
--snip--
> My point was that to a computer user -- even a sophisticated and
> somewhat jaded one like me -- the "speed" of a computer has nothing to
> do with its clock, the amount of memory it has, the quality of its
> network, the vast ocean
Something related, it can't be serious: Any comment from
the experts? :-)
http://www.linuxtoday.com/high_performance/2007071702826NWHEMS
--
Jaime D. Perea Duarte.
Linux registered user #10472
Dep. Astrofisica Extragalactica.
Instituto de Astrofisica
Geoff Galitz wrote:
The lack of kernel supported checkpointing capabilities in the linux
kernel is something that has baffled me or a while. I wonder if it
> was ever submitted and then rejected? It seems a natural
fit for many organizations. Are there hardware limitations in the x86 world
Robert G. Brown wrote:
Just as a matter of curiousity -- are you running Vista Home (deluxe or
not) or Pro or better?
Vista Business. My department has a volume license with Microsoft
that covers that.
Also, since you and many other people on this list are
at various universities, you might l
Please replace "cloud computing" with "utility computing" they are the
same article on wikipedia but
It seems to me that the current trend is going towards this kind of
setup for people needing server space. Pay per hour, per processor.
If it is to be offered as an alternative to dedicat
At 03:22 PM 7/17/2007, Robert G. Brown wrote:
Another really excellent reason to go with XP. Although MS is doubtless
terrified of virtualization on general principles.
I don't think that MS necessarily worries about virtualization for
their own products (after all, you still had to buy t
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Ariel Sabiguero Yawelak wrote:
4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may not use the
software installed on the
licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware
system.
I thought you had to just go one notch up from home to the business
versi
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Jon Forrest wrote:
Dell is now offering Vista without any craplets installed. I hope
other vendors get the word and start this too. But, I agree
with you that fixing vendor-supplied versions of Windows is a
necessary dark art.
They also provide the "Dell DeCrappifier", whi
It seems to me that the current trend is going towards this kind of
setup for people needing server space. Pay per hour, per processor.
it's an idea popular with certain vendors. and marketing aside,
it makes some sense in some cases. but computers are incredibly cheap!
there is some point whe
Tim Cutts wrote,
> I think that's a little unnecessarily harsh. PuTTY isn't bad at
> all. Its connection user interface is a bit bizarre, but its
> terminal emulation is fine, and it supports all the features of ssh
> that I commonly use. It was the one thing that made my job bearable
>
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Mike Davis wrote:
I've missed a good RGB rant for awhile and this is a good one. It would be
good even if I didn't agree with it. I wish that I thought that corporate IT
would take the issues seriously. But, I don't. Too many people have their
"Certifications," and I belie
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Tony Travis wrote:
Do you really think that Condor is an alternative to openMosix?
I don't know much about Condor, but I thought is was a DRM (Distributed
Resource Manager) like SGE. Is it more than that?
I don't know for sure how functional it is as a OM alternative in
Daniel Pfenniger wrote:
Hi,
See http://www.mosix.org/ for a conditionally gratis replacement of
OpenMosix, and running also on the latest kernels.
Hello, Dan.
Thanks for the tip - I've been ignoring MOSIX since the openMOSIX fork
but I've just requested a copy of MOSIX2 after following the
On 17 Jul 2007, at 7:15 pm, Robert G. Brown wrote:
To GET to another system from XP involves multiple clicks,
moving through several data entry windows and either the horror of a
brain-dead putty tty
I think that's a little unnecessarily harsh. PuTTY isn't bad at
all. Its connection user
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Joe Landman wrote:
(The functions are borrowed from the library provided by "Numerical Recipes
in C++")
I'm currently calling these functions from the main loop with the lines:
ah that explains it...
Um, "borrowed"? You'd better watch out for the DMCA Police -- the
Robert G. Brown escribió:
<<>>
I'm perfectly happy with XP Pro in a VM, too. I expect that very
shortly, when I squeeze Vista into a VM on my OEM Vista Home Deluxe
lenovo laptop (and fix the [EMAIL PROTECTED] broadcom issue so I have wireless)
I'll
even be happy with Vista to the extent that I
IMHO you don't need dynamic migration for embarassingly parallel applications
as they can just be launched
on any available compute node directly and run there to completion. A simple
queue system / scheduler
like torque or similar will be enough to make sure to not run more than cpus
are avail
interested in finding out about virtualisation on beowulf. The pros
and cons, what software can be used and the limitations of such
software.
virtualization does, inherently, sacrifice some performance. since
beowulf is often motivated by achieving higher performance, this is
somewhat contrad
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Jon Forrest wrote:
I'll go out on a limb and take the opposing position.
I'm happily running Vista on both my home machine
(which I own and paid for) and my work machines (which
UC Berkeley owns and paid for).
Perhaps one reason for my success and that I always wipe
out wha
Robert G. Brown wrote:
This is where Vista is a major screw up. Nobody cares about DRM
compliance but the DRM police. Nobody cares about multimedia systems,
and since functioning multimedia now fits in $500 telephones people are
understandably cynical about needing multicore multi GB systems
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Bruno Coutinho wrote:
>Consumers will forgive a lot, but not poor interactive performance.
>That's why Linus has made excellent interactive performance a design
>mandate from the very earliest days of the kernel (and why linux plus X
>on 486's was peppier -- much peppier --
Robert G. Brown wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Jeffrey B. Layton wrote:
Afternoon all,
I don't know how many people this affects, but I thought it was
worth posting in case people are using openMosix. The
leader of openMosix, Moshe Bar, has announced that the
openMosix project is ending.
http://
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Chris Samuel wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Robert G. Brown wrote:
The real drivers will install into the BIOS and should stop being OS
specific at all
Given the general quality of BIOS and ACPI implementations this somehow does
not fill me with a warm glow...
"Our BIOS su
On 17 Jul 2007, at 2:33 pm, Robert G. Brown wrote:
It's also been amusing to use "rdesktop" under linux to connect to it.
Given the cost of TSCALs (less than a full copy of WinXP Pro) and the
high administrative costs of Win-anything -- I have a sucker rod I
plan
to use to school the next pe
On 17 Jul 2007, at 2:22 pm, Gerry Creager wrote:
Nope, NT4 was the end of the evolutionary peak. It's been downhill
from there.
Actually, I vote earlier than that. NT 3.51 was a lot more stable.
Not having graphics drivers in the kernel being the main reason. I
used to run NT 3.51 qu
On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 08:03:09PM -0700, Michael Lewis wrote:
>
> I have one of these (though mine is plain serial, and not the usb model).
> It is in fact possible to get at the data without the included software.
>
> The vendor documents the protocol here (again, mine is serial and not USB,
>
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Joe Landman wrote:
Dude, I bought a Dell. No kidding. Should be getting it next week. Gonna
load it up with ram. Has XP, will be putting Ubuntu 7.04 on it.
Dude, I'm working on a Dell right now. Lenovo's are built better --
even a dirt-cheap lenovo has a case engineere
Brian Dobbins wrote:
Wrongo. Win2K was never REALLY pushed as a consumer product. But now
try getting a new system over the counter with anything but Vista on it.
Sure, if you special order or buy online you can get XP -- probably at
full retail. But seriously, the market is being saturated wi
And you mean to tell me that seeing the cursor slide over each painful
pixel on a 2.3GHz dual core machine with a gigabyte of memory, after
waiting for almost 7 minutes (a little over 400 clock seconds, yes, I
was watching) to start my user, isn't a design goal? Or asking me about
every potent
On Jul 16, 2007, at 7:24 PM, Jon Forrest wrote:
The primary reason I run Vista, instead of Linux,
is that no version of Linux I've seen looks as
good on an LCD screen as Windows with Cleartype.
I've run tests on the same hardware, switching between
Linux and Windows. It isn't even close.
I d
Hi James:
James Roberson wrote:
Hello,
I'm new to parallel programming and MPI. I've developed a simulator in
C++ for which I would
like to decrease the running time by using a Beowulf cluster. I'm not
interested in optimizing
speed, I'm just looking for a quick and easy way to significantl
Hi,
I'm just getting into beowulf so please excuse my ignorance. Im
interested in finding out about virtualisation on beowulf. The pros
and cons, what software can be used and the limitations of such
software.
Can a beowulf cluster be applied to cloud computing? Will it run xen
or vmware or woul
Best words I've ever seen combined to make a sentence.
On 7/16/07, Peter St. John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
RGB asks, "...On my nice new dual core 2 GB laptop, Vista Home runs like --
what? What is a
suitable metaphor for a system that can't even keep up with a moving mouse?
..."
Jabba the Hu
I'll go out on a limb and take the opposing position.
I'm happily running Vista on both my home machine
(which I own and paid for) and my work machines (which
UC Berkeley owns and paid for).
Perhaps one reason for my success and that I always wipe
out whatever version of Windows comes with a PC a
Jim Lux wrote:
> At 07:31 AM 7/13/2007, Robert G. Brown wrote:
>
>
>> For small/personal clusters I change my mind again. I tend to buy cheap
>> UPS's for my house because our power bobbles for 1-5 seconds nearly
>> every heavy rain/windstorm we have, which is why I know from direct
>> experienc
>
> Yeah, but it has nearly always had a few tragic flaws. One was that it
was always basically a hack of a specific kernel version and image,
meaning that if you used it you were outside of a working kernel update
stream. The second was that it was basically a hack of a specific
kernel version a
Mark Hahn wrote:
>> I see some that are battery powered and have Windoze programs,
>> ideally it would be powered by USB and readable from Linux, so you
>> could leave it plugged in your cluster...
>
> I've used 1-wire (dallas) before. the cluster I sit next to reports
>>2000 temperature sensors
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 07:53:55PM -0700, Greg Lindahl wrote:
> So, the thing that logs power usage over time seems to be the "Watts
> Up Pro", which says that it plugs into USB and has a Windoze program that
> graphs power usage. Does anyone have one, and can you access the data
> sans Windoze pro
Robert G. Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Jim Lux wrote:
>
>>> I have never seen a NiCd last that long. One is lucky to get a hundred
>>> power cycles out of them.
>>
>> Something is seriously wrong.
>>
>> Typical Lead Acid should take 1000 cycles (where a cycle is full
>> discharge)
>>
>> Ni
Try cpufreqd to manage power and be sure to set ondemand mode for balance.
AMD box may consume less while the Intel north bridge can eat about 11-25W per
chip.
Memory will eat more than we expected when the load is light. I can't find some
daemon to mange power consumed by RAM.
Now, there are som
Try cpufreqd to manage power and be sure to set ondemand mode for balance.
AMD box may consume less while the Intel north bridge can eat about 11-25W per
chip.
Memory will eat more than we expected when the load is light. I can't find some
daemon to mange power consumed by RAM.
Now, there are som
Hello,
I'm new to parallel programming and MPI. I've developed a simulator in C++
for which I would
like to decrease the running time by using a Beowulf cluster. I'm not
interested in optimizing
speed, I'm just looking for a quick and easy way to significantly improve
the speed over running
the
Dear Colleagues,
Please be advised that the paper submission deadline (July 24, 2007) of
P2P-NVE 2007 is approaching. You are encouraged to submit a paper. You can
first register the title of the paper and upload the full paper before the
deadline. Attached is the CFP, where you can find useful in
Mikhail Kuzminsky wrote:
> In message from Mark Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:17:51
> -0400 (EDT)):
>> one interesting thing is that PSU's are most efficient near their max
>> load.
>> ...
>> Don, how do you measure efficiency?
> Sorry - the stupid question :-)
>
> What *is* PS
So it looks like the 53xx, despite being rated at 15 watts less than the
Opterons, draws more power at peak load, which seems to be what our
second vendor is suggesting for the 5160 vs. the 2216.
I'll note that Ron's 11000 watts/32 nodes is 343 watts/node, not far
from your Intel numbers.
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