Re: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread laytonjb
> > > Initially, we are deciding to use Gigabit ehternet switch and 1GB of > > >RAM at > > >each node. > > that seems like an odd choice. it's not much ram, and gigabit is > extremely slow (relative to alternatives, or in comparison to on-board > memory access.) This is a common misconceptio

RE: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread laytonjb
I sort of agree :) We've seen dual-core do very well on most CFD applications. For instance switching to dual-core on Fluent only results in about a 5% loss of performance. On other CFD codes the difference is on the noise. So I would recommend dual-core CPUs. I echo Michaels' comments about 1 G

RE: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread Michael Will
Dual cpu single core, opteron. Make sure that the 1G of RAM are enough for your application. Also consider a low latency interconnect, i.e. infiniband because I have seen cases where CFD exchanges a lot of small messages. Michael Will -- SE Technical Lead Penguin Computing -Original Messag

Re: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread Vincent Diepeveen
As i'm not a complete layman in fluid dynamics software i'll make a few assumption to advice a choice:   assumptions: a) that gigabit is enough for you and that you don't need bandwidth to other nodes b) that you are interested in having a huge amount of RAM at each compute nodes c) that pric

Re: [Beowulf] MPICH - ssh config question

2006-06-15 Thread Daniel Widyono
Some disdain using SSH for this purpose at all, but if you want to use SSH for whatever reason, google for ssh hostbased site:liniac.upenn.edu. I can't speak to that being *necessary* for MPICH to run. I'm sure you could just setup hostbased rsh (using /etc/hosts.equiv) and be done with it, altho

Re: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread Mark Hahn
> > 1. One processor at each of the compute nodes > > 2. Two processors (on one mother board) at each of the compute nodes > > 3. Two Processors (each one dual-core processor) (total 4 cores on > > 4. four processor (on one mother board) at each of the compute nodes. not considering a 4x2

Re: [Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread Mikhail Kuzminsky
In message from "amjad ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:02:12 -0400): Hi ALL We are going to build a true Beowulf cluster for Numerical Simulation of Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) models at our university. My question is that what is the best choice for us out of the followin

[Beowulf] Slection from processor choices; Requesting Giudence

2006-06-15 Thread amjad ali
Hi ALL We are going to build a true Beowulf cluster for Numerical Simulation of Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) models at our university. My question is that what is the best choice for us out of the following choices about processors for a given fixed/specific amount/budget: One processor at

Re: [Beowulf] MS HPC... Oh dear...

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Davis
Vincent: The HPC market is a far cry from the game console market. Having served my time in both publishing and Marketing (in past lives) I can understand your point. But, I don't believe that the point is completely relevant. For example, even if Sun offered me their e2900 for the same pr

RE: [Beowulf] MS HPC... Oh dear...

2006-06-15 Thread John Vert
We will have some real benchmarks announced over the next few months. Microbenchmarks, industry benchmarks, and application benchmarks. I am not going to throw out some numbers right here because I don't have all the details yet and some of the driver stacks are still being tuned. But our testing s

Re: [Beowulf] g03 and centos 3.6

2006-06-15 Thread Mike Davis
Chris, I may have talked to that friend. The real issue is that the earlier compiler worked then the later one didn't. The latest version does work however. I do not believe that anyone broke anything to do with the software. I have compiled G03 on a variety of platforms. This case is the fi