Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-25 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 19:57 +0200, Evert Vorster wrote: > > > On Tue, 25 May 2021 at 19:27, Manhong Dai via aur-general < > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 19:04 +0200, alad via aur-general wrote: > > > On 25/05/2021 18:58

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-25 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 19:04 +0200, alad via aur-general wrote: > On 25/05/2021 18:58, Antoine Viallon via aur-general wrote: > > 25 mai 2021 16:42 "Genes Lists via aur-general" < > > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> a écrit: > > > > > As an outside observer of this thread, it seems like the time

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-25 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 16:11 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > > Unfortunately it still uses the original code. Here is my test. > > > > $ diff -U0 <(seq 900 1000)  <(seq 900 1000 | sed -e "s/999//" > > ) > > --- /dev/fd/63  2021-05-25 09:57:37.954088656 -0400 > > +++ /dev/fd/62  2021-05

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-25 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 12:56 +, Antoine Viallon via aur-general wrote: > 24 mai 2021 09:11 "Miguel Revilla Rodríguez via aur-general" < > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> a > écrit: > > > Then we only have to start using xdelta instead of diff to create > > the > > patches and we will be fine

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-24 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 09:11 +0200, Miguel Revilla Rodríguez via aur- general wrote: > El dom, 23 may 2021 a las 17:12, Manhong Dai via aur-general (< > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org>) escribió: > > > > > I would fully agree with you if the patch file doesn't inc

Re: [aur-general] ...

2021-05-24 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 14:11 +0200, alad via aur-general wrote: > On 24/05/2021 13:43, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > > Who is this about? The noisetorch software, or the sge software? > > And > > what even is this??? > > > > ... > > The orginal discussion was already concluded with [1]. Th

Re: [aur-general] ...

2021-05-24 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 07:43 -0400, Eli Schwartz via aur-general wrote: > On 5/22/21 4:35 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: > > I fully agree with that the copyright holder doesn't have any ground > > if > he > > is complaining about that the package m

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-23 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Sun, May 23, 2021, 6:02 AM Tinu Weber wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 15:06:09 -0400, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: > > "locally patch it in any way you like" > > > > I basically agree with everything you said, but the statement quoted > > above is

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-22 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Sat, May 22, 2021, 7:20 PM Паша wrote: > > > > > > > > вс, 23 мая 2021 г. в 02:15, Manhong Dai : > >> "(and not copyrighted, surprisingly) part of original source code" >> >> I am truly surprised by the quoted above . How can you think the original >> source code is not copyrighted? As far as

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-22 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
"(and not copyrighted, surprisingly) part of original source code" I am truly surprised by the quoted above . How can you think the original source code is not copyrighted? As far as I know, US copyright law doesn't have distinction between different parts of software code. Unless the upstream pu

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-22 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Sat, May 22, 2021, 4:15 PM Miguel Revilla Rodríguez via aur-general < aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > El sáb, 22 may 2021 a las 21:57, Manhong Dai () escribió: > > > > > I repectfully disagree. In this case the package maintainer had a patch > > file which includes some source code. >

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-22 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Sat, May 22, 2021, 3:52 PM Miguel Revilla Rodríguez via aur-general < aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > El sáb, 22 may 2021 a las 20:51, Yangjun Wang via aur-general (< > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org>) escribió: > > > > > Not a lawyer here, but here is my opinion on the matter. > > >

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-22 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Sat, May 22, 2021, 2:52 PM Yangjun Wang via aur-general < aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > On 5/21/21 7:48 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 19:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote: > >> On Fri, 21 May 2021

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 6:34 PM Daniel Berjón Díez wrote: > > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 22:26, Manhong Dai wrote: > >> >> Further, as Daniel already pointed out, this case is just about API. >> > > I did no such thing, I merely pointed out that one of their arguments is > that the copy was not subs

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:47 PM Паша wrote: > > > пт, 21 мая 2021 г., 23:40 Manhong Dai via aur-general < > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org>: > >> On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:36 PM mar77i via aur-general < >> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: >>

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:36 PM mar77i via aur-general < aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Friday, May 21, 2021 10:25 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general < > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > IMHO, as it is very tricky

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 2:30 PM Daniel Berjón Díez via aur-general < aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > Hi ente, > > On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 19:11, ente via aur-general < > aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > > In - broadly speaking - any other situation, you are copying. Copying > > i

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
"locally patch it in any way you like" I basically agree with everything you said, but the statement quoted above is tricky. As I said before, it really depends on how you patch it. If it is a diff patch file, which always uses the original code, then the upstream programmer does have a ground

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 19:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote: > On Fri, 21 May 2021 12:37:05 -0400, Manhong Dai wrote: > > I still think even 'sensible modifications' is still a modification, > > especially if the original author has an issue with it. > > Yesno ;)!  There are GPL vs BS

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 19:10 +0200, ente via aur-general wrote: > On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general > wrote: > > Hi Manhong, > > > > it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a > > license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even > > to

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 09:50 -0700, Brett Cornwall via aur-general wrote: > On 2021-05-21 11:54, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote: > > I know I will be the minority in this list. However, this statement > > doesn't sound right to me if the patch file is applied to the > >

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote: > Hi Manhong, > > it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a > license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even > to > distinguish between theft and fortuitousness. > > If you wrote a song nam

Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation

2021-05-21 Thread Manhong Dai via aur-general
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:05:21 -0500 > From: "David C. Rankin" > To: aur-general@lists.archlinux.org > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 5/18/21 2:06 AM, Brett Cornwall via aur-general wrote: > > On 2021-0