On Fri, May 21, 2021, 6:34 PM Daniel Berjón Díez
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> On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 22:26, Manhong Dai wrote:
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>> Further, as Daniel already pointed out, this case is just about API.
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> I did no such thing, I merely pointed out that one of their arguments is
> that the copy was not subs
On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 22:26, Manhong Dai wrote:
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> Further, as Daniel already pointed out, this case is just about API.
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I did no such thing, I merely pointed out that one of their arguments is
that the copy was not substantial in volume, and it was a lot more than
three lines for a patch; ac
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:47 PM Паша wrote:
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> пт, 21 мая 2021 г., 23:40 Manhong Dai via aur-general <
> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org>:
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>> On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:36 PM mar77i via aur-general <
>> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
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>> > -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>> > On Frida
пт, 21 мая 2021 г., 23:40 Manhong Dai via aur-general <
aur-general@lists.archlinux.org>:
> On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:36 PM mar77i via aur-general <
> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
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> > -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Friday, May 21, 2021 10:25 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general <
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On Fri, May 21, 2021, 4:36 PM mar77i via aur-general <
aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
> -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 10:25 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general <
> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
> > IMHO, as it is very tricky to distribute a patch file wi
-‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, May 21, 2021 10:25 PM, Manhong Dai via aur-general
wrote:
> IMHO, as it is very tricky to distribute a patch file without copyright, a
> better solution for AUR maintainers is to creat patch files including the
> upstream copyright and then host the fil
On Fri, May 21, 2021, 2:30 PM Daniel Berjón Díez via aur-general <
aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
> Hi ente,
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> On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 19:11, ente via aur-general <
> aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
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> > In - broadly speaking - any other situation, you are copying. Copying
> > i
"locally patch it in any way you like"
I basically agree with everything you said, but the statement quoted
above is tricky.
As I said before, it really depends on how you patch it. If it is a diff
patch file, which always uses the original code, then the upstream
programmer does have a ground
On 5/21/21 1:10 PM, ente via aur-general wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote:
>> Hi Manhong,
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>> it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a
>> license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even to
>> distinguish between th
Hi ente,
On Fri, 21 May 2021 at 19:11, ente via aur-general <
aur-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote:
> In - broadly speaking - any other situation, you are copying. Copying
> is protected by the copyright. GPL grants you rights under certain
> conditions. If you don't fully comply with the restr
On Fri, 21 May 2021 13:48:49 -0400, Manhong Dai wrote:
>That being said, I always hope AUR can have as little conflicts like
>this as possible, so I can continuously benefit from Arch Linux.
In my experiences most of the AUR is without problems, a benefit for
all of us.
We are all humans and the
On Fri, 21 May 2021 19:10:57 +0200, ente wrote:
>Oh, sorry to say Ralf: in any scenario you should never again consider
>to write a song! That song is horrible!
:D
While I have to agree that my analogy doesn't work perfectly, this part
of the analogy does a good job.
You and I probably agree, th
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 19:34 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote:
> On Fri, 21 May 2021 12:37:05 -0400, Manhong Dai wrote:
> > I still think even 'sensible modifications' is still a modification,
> > especially if the original author has an issue with it.
>
> Yesno ;)! There are GPL vs BS
On Fri, 21 May 2021 12:37:05 -0400, Manhong Dai wrote:
>I still think even 'sensible modifications' is still a modification,
>especially if the original author has an issue with it.
Yesno ;)! There are GPL vs BSD license disputes for no good reasons.
How Pooterish can we go? As long as the world
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 19:10 +0200, ente via aur-general wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general
> wrote:
> > Hi Manhong,
> >
> > it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a
> > license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even
> > to
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 09:50 -0700, Brett Cornwall via aur-general
wrote:
> On 2021-05-21 11:54, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote:
> > I know I will be the minority in this list. However, this statement
> > doesn't sound right to me if the patch file is applied to the
> > original
> > source code.
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote:
> Hi Manhong,
>
> it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a
> license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even to
> distinguish between theft and fortuitousness.
>
> If you wrote a song named
On 2021-05-21 11:54, Manhong Dai via aur-general wrote:
I know I will be the minority in this list. However, this statement
doesn't sound right to me if the patch file is applied to the original
source code.
Unlike the file PKGBUILD, a patch file constitutes a modified source
code because it doe
On Fri, 2021-05-21 at 18:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via aur-general wrote:
> Hi Manhong,
>
> it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a
> license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even
> to
> distinguish between theft and fortuitousness.
>
> If you wrote a song nam
Hi Manhong,
it's squishy to form an opinion related to violation of a
license and toleration of sensible modifications and sometimes even to
distinguish between theft and fortuitousness.
If you wrote a song named "love song" composed of holding the note c for
1000 beats and after that holding the
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:05:21 -0500
> From: "David C. Rankin"
> To: aur-general@lists.archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [aur-general] Notification of GPL violation
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> On 5/18/21 2:06 AM, Brett Cornwall via aur-general wrote:
> > On 2021-0
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