Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-08 Thread pete via arch-general
On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 22:50:21 +0100 Mike Cloaked via arch-general wrote: > On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:13 PM David Rosenstrauch via arch-general < > arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > > > > > > On 6/7/21 3:49 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: > > > I'll just live with it until I

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-08 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 6:48 AM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > ... Ok, so if it works then that means your output is happy now, right? > Does it even *matter* if your output is happy, but you're retrieving 2 > things in parallel? Your objective here was to get uncorrupted output... > *right*? No, No

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-08 Thread Bennett Piater via arch-general
On 2021-06-08 10:19, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: Blasphemy! When they pry my cold dead fingers off my konsole :) Modern Konsole has tiling and all kinds of niceties, great wayland support and just works :) Maybe it's time to go with the times... Cheers

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-08 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 4:50 PM, Mike Cloaked via arch-general wrote: > It works fine in konsole Well... this is KDE3 konsole :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-08 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 4:13 PM, David Rosenstrauch via arch-general wrote: > Or you could just switch to a modern terminal app!  :-) > > DR Blasphemy! When they pry my cold dead fingers off my konsole :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Andrew Gregory via arch-general
On 06/07/21 at 02:49pm, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: > On 6/7/21 4:46 AM, Xiretza via arch-general wrote: > > From pacman.conf(5): > > > >> ParallelDownloads > >> Specifies number of concurrent download streams. The value needs to be a > >> positive integer. If this config option is not

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Mike Cloaked via arch-general
On Mon, Jun 7, 2021 at 10:13 PM David Rosenstrauch via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > > > On 6/7/21 3:49 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: > > I'll just live with it until I have time to dig into the pacman source > and > > find out what this supposed "new feat

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread David Rosenstrauch via arch-general
On 6/7/21 3:49 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: I'll just live with it until I have time to dig into the pacman source and find out what this supposed "new feature" is that screws up old terminals. Or you could just switch to a modern terminal app! :-) DR

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Dan Sommers via arch-general
On 2021-06-03 at 12:09:59 -0500, "David C. Rankin via arch-general" wrote: > On 6/3/21 4:17 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: > > The new progressbar requires specific escape codes (part of VT100 terminal > > definition I think) to be supported. > > > > Atleast one terminal emulator (qtermin

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 4:46 AM, Xiretza via arch-general wrote: > From pacman.conf(5): > >> ParallelDownloads >> Specifies number of concurrent download streams. The value needs to be a >> positive integer. If this config option is not set then only one download >> stream is used (i.e. downloads happen sequent

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 6/7/21 5:43 AM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: > On 6/7/21 3:56 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: >> Maybe you could test with a console terminal like getty / agetty instead of a >> terminal emulator ? >> >> >> Try setting ParallelDownloads = 0  in pacman.conf . >> >> LW > > Good t

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Xiretza via arch-general
On 07/06/2021 11.43, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: On 6/7/21 3:56 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: Maybe you could test with a console terminal like getty / agetty instead of a terminal emulator ? Try setting ParallelDownloads = 0  in pacman.conf . LW Good thought, but ... er

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 3:56 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: > Maybe you could test with a console terminal like getty / agetty instead of a > terminal emulator ? > > > Try setting ParallelDownloads = 0  in pacman.conf . > > LW ParallelDownloads = 1 works (and hopefully that means 1 at-a-time and not

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/7/21 3:56 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: > Maybe you could test with a console terminal like getty / agetty instead of a > terminal emulator ? > > > Try setting ParallelDownloads = 0  in pacman.conf . > > LW Good thought, but ... error: config file /etc/pacman.conf, line 38: value

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread Lone_Wolf via arch-general
On 07-06-2021 10:46, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: On 6/6/21 2:56 AM, Ralph Corderoy via arch-general wrote: Hi David, Why the informative text output from a package manager should use anything other than basic terminal capabilities seems to fly in the face of the Arch KISS philoso

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-07 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/6/21 2:56 AM, Ralph Corderoy via arch-general wrote: > Hi David, > >> Why the informative text output from a package manager should use >> anything other than basic terminal capabilities seems to fly in the >> face of the Arch KISS philosophy. > > As long as it's querying terminfo(5) to chec

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-06 Thread u34--- via arch-general
Kr1ss via arch-general wrote: > Hello David, > > >> ILoveCandy > >Sounds like a slogan for a lollipop store rather than something that > >should be part of a Linux package manager. > > It's an _easter egg_, not an official feature - but besides that, I > don't actually believe it could have t

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-06 Thread Kr1ss via arch-general
Hello David, ILoveCandy Sounds like a slogan for a lollipop store rather than something that should be part of a Linux package manager. It's an _easter egg_, not an official feature - but besides that, I don't actually believe it could have the potential to fix your issue. I'll try anythi

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy via arch-general
Hi David, > Why the informative text output from a package manager should use > anything other than basic terminal capabilities seems to fly in the > face of the Arch KISS philosophy. As long as it's querying terminfo(5) to check for the capability and using the escape sequence presented there if

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-05 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/3/21 4:21 PM, Ralf Mardorf via arch-general wrote: > Does adding > > ILoveCandy > Sounds like a slogan for a lollipop store rather than something that should be part of a Linux package manager. I'll try anything, but this seems like a largely self-imposed wound. Why the informative text out

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-05 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/3/21 4:07 PM, David Rosenstrauch via arch-general wrote: > Actually, I think that might be the issue.  (Or at least part of it.)  I don't > have these issues using xfce4-terminal. g-darnit, now I have to patch that too! Use xterm and there was still a bit of wonkiness like it was trying to do

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
Does adding ILoveCandy to /etc/pacman.conf make a difference? I don't notice a progress bar issue. My setup: $ grep IL /etc/pacman.conf ILoveCandy $ pacman -Qi roxterm | grep On Depends On : dbus-glib vte3 hicolor-icon-theme $ pacman -Q roxterm vte3 roxterm 3.11.1-1 vte3 0.64.1-1

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David Rosenstrauch via arch-general
On 6/3/21 4:59 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: On 6/3/21 1:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch via arch-general wrote: On 6/3/21 1:09 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: I did all 3 updates from different tabs in the same konsole (KDE), so the terminal is VT100 compatible. It rea

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/3/21 1:00 PM, David Rosenstrauch via arch-general wrote: > > > On 6/3/21 1:09 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: >> I did all 3 updates from different tabs in the same konsole (KDE), so the >> terminal is VT100 compatible. It really looked like there was a bad ANSI >> escape somewhe

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread Dan Sommers via arch-general
On 2021-06-03 at 14:00:08 -0400, David Rosenstrauch via arch-general wrote: > On 6/3/21 1:09 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: > > I did all 3 updates from different tabs in the same konsole (KDE), so the > > terminal is VT100 compatible. It really looked like there was a bad ANSI > > e

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David Rosenstrauch via arch-general
On 6/3/21 1:09 PM, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: I did all 3 updates from different tabs in the same konsole (KDE), so the terminal is VT100 compatible. It really looked like there was a bad ANSI escape somewhere. It was night/day different than the last time I updated and I've proba

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/3/21 4:17 AM, Lone_Wolf via arch-general wrote: > The new progressbar requires specific escape codes (part of VT100 terminal > definition I think) to be supported. > > Atleast one terminal emulator (qterminal ) has already been found not to > support those , see https://bbs.archlinux.org/view

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/3/21 4:05 AM, Anton Hvornum via arch-general wrote: > Just to make sure, you're not using archinstall when that "jumping around" > happens right? Because if that's the case, then it's my fault and not > pacman :) > Right, this is plain old 'pacman -Syu' on 3 boxes that have been running sinc

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread Lone_Wolf via arch-general
On 03-06-2021 10:37, David C. Rankin via arch-general wrote: On 6/1/21 6:57 PM, Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general wrote: On 01/06/2021 23:15, Yash Karandikar via arch-general wrote: My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. pacman=6.0.0-2 is already in stable. ;) F

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread Anton Hvornum via arch-general
Just to make sure, you're not using archinstall when that "jumping around" happens right? Because if that's the case, then it's my fault and not pacman :) On Thu, 3 Jun 2021, 10:34 David C. Rankin via arch-general, < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > On 6/1/21 6:57 PM, Jonathon Fernyhoug

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/1/21 6:57 PM, Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general wrote: > On 01/06/2021 23:15, Yash Karandikar via arch-general wrote: >> My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. > > pacman=6.0.0-2 is already in stable. ;) > Follow up on my earlier report of jittery output on pacma

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-03 Thread David C. Rankin via arch-general
On 6/1/21 6:57 PM, Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general wrote: > On 01/06/2021 23:15, Yash Karandikar via arch-general wrote: >> My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. > > pacman=6.0.0-2 is already in stable. ;) > and it has terminal output issues bigtime. Whatever is ca

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-01 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general
On 01/06/2021 23:15, Yash Karandikar via arch-general wrote: My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. pacman=6.0.0-2 is already in stable. ;) OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-01 Thread Filipe Laíns via arch-general
On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 23:15 +, Yash Karandikar via arch-general wrote: > My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. > Yash Karandikar > d5c4 1cbc 071b 41b3 f235 da13 f01e 92cd 2390 f369 > > Jun 1, 2021 6:12:53 PM u34--- via arch-general < > arch-general@lists.archlinux.org

Re: [arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-01 Thread Yash Karandikar via arch-general
My guess is that they'll update that once pacman 6 hits stable. Yash Karandikar d5c4 1cbc 071b 41b3 f235 da13 f01e 92cd 2390 f369 Jun 1, 2021 6:12:53 PM u34--- via arch-general : > The time stamp at the bottom of > https://archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html is Aug-2019. The way I > understa

[arch-general] archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html from Aug-2019

2021-06-01 Thread u34--- via arch-general
The time stamp at the bottom of https://archlinux.org/pacman/pacman.conf.5.html is Aug-2019. The way I understand pacman v6 conf, there are some changes. Such as retiring TotalDownload. I haven't checked if there are differences with other files at the site. Is updating pacman.conf.5.html alread