Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread mike lojkovic via arch-general
How I look at this I'd it's a lot like vim. We can either optimize to make things easier for newbies, or more efficient for experienced users. Based on context, it's easy to understand, and you're keeping things simpler by not coming up with myriad additional terms for related but slightly differen

Re: [arch-general] Arch intallation using usb-modem

2021-03-16 Thread Morten Bo Johansen via arch-general
On 2021-03-16 Andreas Bosch via arch-general wrote: > Hi, > > The wayback machine has a copy of the binary-free sakis3g, that may be an > option, even if it is very old Thanks, I just tried it, but I could not get a connection with it. It seems I must plug away with wvdial. Thanks, Morten

Re: [arch-general] Arch intallation using usb-modem

2021-03-16 Thread Andreas Bosch via arch-general
Hi, The wayback machine has a copy of the binary-free sakis3g, that may be an option, even if it is very old https://web.archive.org/web/20130330200728/http://www.sakis3g.org/#download https://web.archive.org/web/20130330200728/http://www.sakis3g.org/versions/latest/binary-free/sakis3g.gz ech

Re: [arch-general] Arch intallation using usb-modem

2021-03-16 Thread Morten Bo Johansen via arch-general
On 2021-03-16 WorMzy Tykashi via arch-general wrote: > > Have you seen https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_3G_Modem ? Yes, I have seen it. The problem is that none of the most viable solutions (for me), netctl, libmbm and mmcli are on the installation medium. I am stuck with wvdial and pppd.

Re: [arch-general] Arch intallation using usb-modem

2021-03-16 Thread WorMzy Tykashi via arch-general
Have you seen https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_3G_Modem ?

[arch-general] Arch intallation using usb-modem

2021-03-16 Thread Morten Bo Johansen via arch-general
Hi I would like to install Arch Linux, but I only have a mobile broadband connection with a usb-modem. Arch installation does not set up that connection automatically, but rather it has to be configured manually from the command prompt. I tried with wvdial but had no luck. What other alternative

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em março 16, 2021 16:22 Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general escreveu: Am Dienstag, dem 16.03.2021 um 19:03 +0100 schrieb Georg via arch- general: Make a proposal at the relevant places or leave it, but this topic has made enough noise on this list. Love it or leave it? I will leave it. S

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general
Am Dienstag, dem 16.03.2021 um 19:03 +0100 schrieb Georg via arch- general: > Make a proposal at the relevant places or > leave it, but this topic has made enough noise on this list. Love it or leave it? I will leave it.

Re: [arch-general] Gajim doesn't start

2021-03-16 Thread SET via arch-general
Le lundi 15 mars 2021 11:17:40 CET Olli via arch-general a écrit : > I works for me again after updating python-keyring to version 23.0.0-2 > (two days ago). > > – Olli Thanks, it works with python-keyring !

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em março 16, 2021 14:19 Matthias Bodenbinder escreveu: Am Dienstag, dem 16.03.2021 um 12:47 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general: The projects involved here, pacman, archweb and aurweb are all open source and can receive patches. I would suggest that the Arch community agrees on

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Georg via arch-general
With a community agreement as a backup it is much easier to create change requests for the individual tools. You won't find a "community agreement" or similar by reiterating the same points over and over. Make a proposal at the relevant places or leave it, but this topic has made enough noise

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 3/16/21 1:19 PM, Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general wrote: > Am Dienstag, dem 16.03.2021 um 12:47 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini > via arch-general: >> The projects involved here, pacman, archweb and aurweb are all >> open source and can receive patches. > > I would suggest that the Arch

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general
Am Dienstag, dem 16.03.2021 um 12:47 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general: > The projects involved here, pacman, archweb and aurweb are all > open source and can receive patches. I would suggest that the Arch community agrees on the topic first before starting multiple parallel discu

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em março 16, 2021 12:35 Maxim Vuets via arch-general escreveu: In spite of the backlash that Matthias has got, I think he has a point. Yes, the contexts are different (dependencies and ownership), yet they are related (packages). Mind the curse of knowledge[1]: it's pretty clear what an orphan m

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-16 Thread Maxim Vuets via arch-general
> The pacman manpage says: > > orphans - packages that were installed as dependencies > but are no longer required by any installed package. > > For the AUR the definition of an "orphan" is > > If all maintainers of an AUR package disown it, it will > become an "orphaned"