Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Elvis Stansvik via arch-general
Den tors 11 mars 2021 16:46Lars Gustäbel via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> skrev: > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 04:24:49PM +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.03.2021 um 16:15 +0100 schrieb Lars Gustäbel: > > > I really don't know what you're trying to prove

[arch-general] Default dtags in Arch

2021-03-11 Thread Nicola Mori via arch-general
I'm tracking down an inconsistent behavior of my application when compiled under different distributions. It seems that under Arch the -Wl,-rpath, linker flag will set an RPATH into the library, while under Ubuntu 20.04 and 18.04 the same flag results in a RUNPATH being set. So it seems to me t

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Lars Gustäbel via arch-general
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 04:24:49PM +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.03.2021 um 16:15 +0100 schrieb Lars Gustäbel: > > I really don't know what you're trying to prove here. I would be > > interested in > > which words you would propose to distinguish between the two > > con

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general
Am Donnerstag, dem 11.03.2021 um 16:15 +0100 schrieb Lars Gustäbel: > I really don't know what you're trying to prove here. I would be > interested in > which words you would propose to distinguish between the two > contexts. The pacman defintion is a local definition which only applies to an indi

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Lars Gustäbel via arch-general
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 03:51:35PM +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general wrote: > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.03.2021 um 11:23 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo > Razzolini: > > This is different from the orphan in the context of a package > > manager. > > As long as you don't conflate > > both contexts, i

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens via arch-general
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:51 PM Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > It is simply confusing and not best practise to take a defintion from > pacman (which was first in line from my point of view) and overwrite it > with a new definition for the AUR. An

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general
Am Donnerstag, dem 11.03.2021 um 11:23 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini: > This is different from the orphan in the context of a package > manager. > As long as you don't conflate > both contexts, it's very easy to understand the differences between > these orphans. Sure, I understand the differ

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em março 11, 2021 3:43 Matthias Bodenbinder via arch-general escreveu: Hi, in the arch world I see two different definition of an "orphan". The pacman manpage says: orphans - packages that were installed as dependencies  but are no longer required by any installed package. F

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Dan Sommers via arch-general
On 2021-03-11 at 09:11:34 +0100, Reto via arch-general wrote: > On 11 March 2021 08:54:16 CET, Matthias Bodenbinder > wrote: > > >Your example is not valid. Because the two different definitions of an > >orphan are within the same context: arch package management. Depending > >on which repo yo

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Anton Hvornum via arch-general
On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 8:09 AM Reto via arch-general wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 07:43:30AM +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder via > arch-general wrote: > > in the arch world I see two different definition of an "orphan". > >[...] > > This is confusing. Would it make sense to change the wording

Re: [arch-general] definition of "orphan"

2021-03-11 Thread Reto via arch-general
On 11 March 2021 08:54:16 CET, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: >Your example is not valid. Because the two different definitions of an >orphan are within the same context: arch package management. Depending >on which repo you are getting the package from an orphan is this or >that. That is ambigious