Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Geert Hendrickx via arch-general
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 21:25:21 +0100, mpan via arch-general wrote: > > I benchmarked it on my mkinitcpio image, and zstd with mkinitcpio's […] > Though you have benchmarked a wrong thing. It’s decompression time that > matters here, not compression. The image is compressed to make it load > faste

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread mpan via arch-general
I benchmarked it on my mkinitcpio image, and zstd with mkinitcpio's […] Though you have benchmarked a wrong thing. It’s decompression time that matters here, not compression. The image is compressed to make it load faster during boot and that’s the important metric here. I did my own bench

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Geert Hendrickx via arch-general
On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 19:33:26 +0100, Geert Hendrickx via arch-general wrote: > I benchmarked it on my mkinitcpio image, and zstd with mkinitcpio's > default compression level 19 (standard COMPRESSION_OPTIONS for zstd) is > several orders of magnitude slower than lz4, only to gain ~30% extra > co

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Geert Hendrickx via arch-general
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 16:45:02 -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > If you're using lz4 now, you might want to try zstd. It's faster to > generate images now. I benchmarked it on my mkinitcpio image, and zstd with mkinitcpio's default compression level 19 (standard COMPRESSION_

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread mike lojkovic via arch-general
What about when you have an nvme disc with relatively slow boot up times? On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 10:20 AM Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general < arch-general@lists.archlinux.org> wrote: > On 20/02/2021 16:17, NicoHood via arch-general wrote: > > I was also wondering what gives the best speed. I

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough via arch-general
On 20/02/2021 16:17, NicoHood via arch-general wrote: > I was also wondering what gives the best speed. I got a boot partition > with 250mb, wouldn't it make sense to use CAT aka no compression? It's a balance between CPU usage and disk IO. cat requires more data to be read from disk, zstd requir

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread NicoHood via arch-general
On 2/20/21 12:11 PM, Andreas Radke via arch-general wrote: > Am Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:50:58 -0300 > schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general > : > >> Em fevereiro 20, 2021 2:52 mike lojkovic via arch-general escreveu: >>> zstd is even faster at decompressing at boot than lz4 now? >>> >> >> I

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Andreas Radke via arch-general
Am Sat, 20 Feb 2021 07:50:58 -0300 schrieb Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general : > Em fevereiro 20, 2021 2:52 mike lojkovic via arch-general escreveu: > > zstd is even faster at decompressing at boot than lz4 now? > > > > I don't think you'll notice much difference with either one. > > Regar

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em fevereiro 20, 2021 2:52 mike lojkovic via arch-general escreveu: zstd is even faster at decompressing at boot than lz4 now? I don't think you'll notice much difference with either one. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini pgptqV3g9j586.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arch-general] [arch-announce] Moving to Zstandard images by default on mkinitcpio

2021-02-20 Thread Thomas Ludwig via arch-general
On 20.02.21 11:31 mike lojkovic via arch-general wrote: zstd is even faster at decompressing at boot than lz4 now? I wonder about this, too. Even the zstd guys don't claim that: https://github.com/facebook/zstd#benchmarks According to their benchmarks lz4 decompression is way faster. That'