On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:30:09 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
> This is a misrepresentation. Udev and systemd were merged I think
> mainly because they "belong together", but also because they had
> cyclic build dependencies as they are very tightly integrated. It is
> not the case that systemd swallow
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 14:49:29 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I suspect upstream folks are living in an ivory tower.
>
> Nouveau, PA, systemd, GNOME3, GIMP etc. and regarding to GIMP somebody
> posted those links. It's worth to read it, since it's not about GIMP
> only, but about the communication be
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 23:43:08 +0200
Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> Sad to see rc.conf more or less
> being deprecated too. Seeing the new man page made me see the
> writing on the wall though, and I have reduced it to an array listing
> the daemons I wanna start.
Better retract this :)
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 00:33:17 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> The essence of it still is the question, why can't PA be optional?
>
> PA isn't needed. PA can be an advantage for some usages. PA can
> completely break some Linux.
What specific problem do you have with programs being linked to
libpulse
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 01:05:25 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Until now even this isn't an issue, since AFAIK only GNOME for Arch
> insists on pulseaudio. But this might change. People for good reasons
> chose some distro.
I think if Gnome has a hard dependency on PA, there isn't anything Arch
can do
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 15:50:16 +0530
Jayesh Badwaik wrote:
> (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case
> you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we
> can drop that support entirely.)"
Lennart in topform again...:( Well if that's the official sta
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:48:48 +0200
Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Since the above quoted statement was made, a decision was taken to
> move to systemd by default, so it clearly no longer applies. While you
> are still free to use initscripts, at some point other packages are
> likely to depend on you boo
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
> unmaintained, polkit will soon depend on systemd. The next Gnome
> version will require systemd - more to come.
I don't run gnome, but kde is just as bad in this case :(
> Th
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 07:46:30 +0530
Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
> On Monday 27 Aug 2012 11:30:46 AM Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:48:32 +0200
> >
> > Thomas Bächler wrote:
> > > But this only concerns the booting itself. As consolekit is
> &
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:55:06 +0200
Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> $ pacman -Qi shows me that kdebase-workspace depends on consolekit,
> which in turn depends on polkit. The above comment seems to suggest
> that kde will soon depend on systemd.
Maybe I should add that I think this suppor
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 23:45:04 +0800
Rashif Ray Rahman wrote:
> Having libpulse or systemd "live" on your system isn't going to do any
> harm while you're adapting to the change. There's always a way to do
> what you want, and there's always another KISS operating system. Given
> the resistance tha
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:55:46 +0100
Neil Perry wrote:
> It seems to be SNA causing the problem. I have swapped over to UXA
> for the time being, been stable for the like 3 hours.
Is the default still UXA mode?
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Joakim
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:30:00 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> makepkg
> then as root run
> pacman -U pulseaudio-dummy-1.0-1-any.pkg.tar.xz
Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
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Joakim
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
Oh dear, where is my brain today...
$ makepkg -cfi
is the correct way of doing it...
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Joakim
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:52:22 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 12:39:49 +0200
> > Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> >
> > > Or just sudo makepkg -cfi
> >
> > Oh dear, where is my brain today...
> >
> > $ m
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:57:05 +0100
Kevin Chadwick wrote:
> p.s. I wasn't being sarcastic about the JS package, polkit now has
> javascript based config files!
WTF...
I want some of that stuff they smoke at Red Hat :)
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Joakim
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:35:57 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> ... nouveau never worked on my machine.
Have you tried nouveau lately? It has improved a lot lately...
--
Joakim
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:27:04 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Unfortunately I can't install nouveau-dri, since this conflicts with
> libgl and nvidia-utils and I'll use the proprietary driver with the
> standard kernel.
If I were you, I'd try nouveau all the way. only reason not to would
be gaming.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:17:31 +0200
fredbezies wrote:
> Let's dump every single technology younger the original unix one. This
> is better. You're a troll, nothing less.
>
> /me unsuscribe. Fed up with your crap and your lies.
Please do, because just in a few minutes of posting scatological and
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:21:44 +0530
phani wrote:
> one troll can't do serious harm. it's when a bunch of others decide
> to take him on again & again that things get out of hand. just keep
> quiet!
I totally agree, the successful troll turns others into worst trolls
than themselves. The only cur
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:41:32 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I set up CPU frequency scaling as needed and run the Jack MIDI latency
> tests again. I suspect the nouveau driver still is broken [1]. There
> are still Xruns and there's an absurd high peak.
At this moment in time I'll skip the rest of y
On Mon, 24 Sep 2012 23:06:57 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 294 FF 85 - 125 0.0 Sirq/18-snd_hdsp
> 122 FF 50 - 90 0.0 Sirq/18-ohci_hcd
> 126 FF 50 - 90 0.0 Sirq/18-ohci_hcd
> 303 FF 50 - 90 0.0 Sirq/18-radeon
> 337 FF
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:28:02 +0100
mike cloaked wrote:
> For those users who use the arch forums via a web interface there
Is there an alternative way to access the forums? mailing list, usenet?
--
Joakim
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:51:34 +0200
Thomas Bächler wrote:
> I am fine with add wpa_supplicant, iw and crda to base if we really
> want wireless support installed by default.
Not that I install many systems, once installed... But I for one would
appreciate having wireless support on the install m
This started happening to me a day or 2 ago. Any ideas why, what i
broke, how to fix it?
jack@tor /home/jack/archaudio/linux-rt $ sudo extra-x86_64-build
==> Creating chroot for [extra] (x86_64)...
==> Creating install root at /var/lib/archbuild/extra-x86_64/root
==> Installing packages to /var/
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 03:18:47 -0400
Dave Reisner wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 08:54:40AM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > This started happening to me a day or 2 ago. Any ideas why, what i
> > broke, how to fix it?
> >
>
> As we continue to build and push
On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:35:07 +0200
"G. Schlisio" wrote:
> hi list,
> i just wondered wether the PKGBUILDs of packages in the binary repos
> are (read) accesible to normal users, e.g. to compile a program with
> different switches.
> thanks for pointers
> georg
>
Check out the abs package, will
Been having this problem for a while now, even converted the system to
systemd in the hope that it would go away.
Probably something I've broken myself, but thought I'd ask here before
creating a bug report.
ack@tor /home/jack/archaudio/linux-rt $ sudo extra-x86_64-build
[sudo] password for jack
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:27:59 +0100
Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> Do you only get this error with this particular package, or with
> extra-x86_64-build in general?
> Submitting this as a "support request" for the devtools package may
> work out.
AFAIK, it happens with every package, and it also happ
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:27:28 +1000
Allan McRae wrote:
> On 01/11/12 07:01, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:27:59 +0100
> > Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> >
> >> Do you only get this error with this particular package, or with
> >> extra-x
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 10:47:56 +1000
Allan McRae wrote:
> On 01/11/12 10:41, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:27:28 +1000
> > Allan McRae wrote:
> >
> >> On 01/11/12 07:01, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:26:35 +1000
Allan McRae wrote:
> What is the mirror at the top of your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist?
> >>>
> >>> Server = http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/$arch
> >>>
> >>
> >> And that correctly ends up in the mirrorlist file in the created
> >> chroot?
>
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:14:16 +0100
Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:26:35 +1000
> Allan McRae wrote:
>
> > >>>> What is the mirror at the top of your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist?
> > >>>
> > >>> Server
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:21:18 +0800
Rashif Ray Rahman wrote:
> > Actually the mirrorlist never gets copied to the chroot.
> > jack@tor /home/jack $
> > cat /var/lib/archbuild/extra-x86_64/root/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
> > Server =
>
> Have you tried recreating the chroot (by just
> deleting /var/li
> On 2 November 2012 07:25, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:14:16 +0100
> > Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > Actually the mirrorlist never gets copied to the chroot.
> > jack@tor /home/jack $
> > cat /var/lib/archbuild/extra-x86_64/root/etc/pacman.d/m
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:27:30 +1100
Gaetan Bisson wrote:
> [2012-11-15 00:04:43 -0500] Daniel Wallace:
> > I read through the entire license. It seemed ok to me but as I am
> > not a lawyer I emailed them to request permission first to
> > redistribute the package in community/multilib.
>
> I am
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:06:36 -0500
Daniel Micay wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Joakim Hernberg
> wrote:
> >
> > Not to mention that the package seems to install a wine version of
> > steam that is in closed beta, which makes it less than useful for
> &g
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 03:40:47 -0500
Daniel Micay wrote:
> steam://open/games
Wow, this is all that clawsmail managed to quote from your msg...:)
Indeed, it does work somewhat when started as "steam
steam://open/games", even though I don't find a single game to
play :( Thanks for the package, I
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 21:33:23 +0300
MSal wrote:
> 70-uaccess.rules is not a backup file and AFAIK any modifications will
> be overwritten in the next update.
I have no /etc/udev/rules.d/70-uaccess.rules on my system, i do have
a /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/70-uaccess.rules though. I think creating
th
On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 16:54:54 +1000
Allan McRae wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With pacman-4.1 we introduced CPPFLAGS in makepkg.conf and moved the
> -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 flag out of C{,XX}FLAGS to there (where it should
> be).
This of course will break wine's builtin workaround for FORTIFY_SOURCE,
which assum
Hi there,
I occasionally need to create new kernel config files for the
aur/linux-rt package. Since I try to keep the config as close as
possible to core/linux, I regularly pick up the config files
from core/linux and then apply the changes needed to make a good -rt
kernel.
My problem is to crea
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 19:37:02 +0200
Ike Devolder wrote:
> When you want to configure your kernel, the logging redirection must
> not be there.
>
> so the quickest solution i can think of is edit /usr/bin/makechrootpkg
>
> line 171, change the makepkg_args to:
> makepkg_args='-s --noconfirm'
> so
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 00:19:33 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi :)
>
> I wonder if it's an issue with linux-rt 3.10.6-rt3 or randomly
> something else went wrong.
Just a FYI, the linux-rt kernel patch is very much a work in progress
and can be very broken at times. I am not saying that this is the
On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:15:48 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 19:47 +0200, Karol Blazewicz wrote:
> > I'm not sure why a separate distro would be needed, there's e.g.
> > http://archaudio.org/
>
> Thank you,
>
> I'm uncertain, if an audio distro is useful and I'll take a deeper
On Thu, 6 Mar 2014 14:03:54 +0100
arnaud gaboury wrote:
> I have no idea what part of the setup is missing.
>
> I run a custom kernel, so is there any wrong configuration on it ? The
> kernel is moderately customized, but maybe did I disabled some needed
> flag ?
I can't help you with your spec
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:40:18 -0600
Squall Lionheart wrote:
> Since about three weeks ago after an update, I have no longer been
> able to print using CUPS. When I send a job to the print queue, it
> generates this message:
>
> stopped
> *"The PPD version (5.2.9) is not compatible with Gutenpri
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 12:42:41 +0200
Tobias Hunger wrote:
> Having a directory with the pristine distro-provided configuration is
> a really nice thing. Just being able to run a simple diff to see all
> the changes you ever did to /etc is really nice. Currently that is
> severely limited in a defau
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:52:03 -0400
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> I'm a chromium user, so looks like I'll have to switch to chrome.
No need to switch, it installs in parallel. Just
run /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable to get chrome instead of chromium.
--
Joakim
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:22:12 +0100
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi,
>
> any idea why CPU frequency scaling doesn't work for 3.14.25-rt22 [1]
> and why it does work for 3.17.6 [2]?
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
Because it's broken on 3.14 with realtime patch :)
Probably quite offtopic on this list since it's f
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:14:31 -0600
Leonid Isaev wrote:
> I tried playing with cmdline options, without any success. ping from
> [core]/iputils 20140519.fad11dc-1 does work. Is this a bug or a
> feature, and does anyone know how to make ping work again?
You could create an ip6table firewall that j
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 11:35:27 -0600
Leonid Isaev wrote:
> All networks on which I have Arch machines are IPv4-only. So I don't
> need IPv6...
I'm not a network expert and don't need ipv4 either, but afaik
disabling ipv6 with a kernel boot flag is not recommended and one can
expect breakage... The
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:46:25 -0600
Leonid Isaev wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 08:04:37PM +0200, Joakim Hernberg wrote:
> > afaik
> > disabling ipv6 with a kernel boot flag is not recommended and one
> > can expect breakage...
>
> Why? Where is it written?
I'
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 12:41:01 +0100
Dennis Lange wrote:
> I downgraded the Kernel Version to 4.2.4-1-ARCH and the temperature
> still goes up to 98°C. I try to investigate more to get an idea of why
> this is happening.
You could use the i7z utility to see what the cpu is up to. Also
investigate
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 21:13:23 +0800
Fulcrum Mike wrote:
>
> It seems like I have a fake Alfa AWUS036H with Ralink Chipset.
> Anyway, I dont think the problem is related to hardware since Kali
> system can capture TCP data with this same adapter.
>
> For future me and others who may be looking fo
On Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:55:09 +0100
SET wrote:
> I started to have exactly the same problem on my new HP laptop,
> complete UI and peripheral freeze. By just pulling out the power
> cord, the system instantly becomes responsive again and I can
> continue work normally. It won't appear again until
We could stop splitting kernel headers out of the kernel package?
As a user I think it would be ace if we had binary modules for those
that want them but I have recently started using dkms modules again, and
find it clearly superior for out of tree modules. (I maintain a couple
of kernels myself,
On Sun, 25 Sep 2016 17:07:39 + (UTC)
Antonio Rojas wrote:
> El Sun, 25 Sep 2016 16:59:42 +0200, sekret escribió:
>
> > So I looked at the other packages of the maintainer, see this link
> > https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?packager=schiv and well, I see
> > a lot of red there!
>
> Note
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:38:19 -0500 (EST)
Jude DaShiell wrote:
> It helps when screen reading or speech synthesis is real time or as
> near to real time as possible. Thanks for putting this information
> out since I could use one set of speakers for speech and another set
> I have connected for o
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 02:57:44 -0300
Pablo Roberto Lezaeta Reyes via arch-general
wrote:
> >>I'm going to move to 4.9-lts branch pretty soon...
>
> Dont forget to take care of FS#51455 since for this is why I cant go
> beyond LTS for now, and if you go to 4.9 I could get lock out or
> word, I can
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 21:02:24 +0100
Neven Sajko via arch-general wrote:
> On 8 March 2017 at 20:57, Neven Sajko wrote:
> > This discussion is pointless without legal advice. Without it
> > disclosing user information (even if it is public) does not seem
> > like such a good idea.
>
> Not that I
Wondering why the main kernel has been reconfigured from
CONFIG_NO_HZ_IDLE to CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL?
The config help has this to say regarding CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL: "This is
implemented at the expense of some overhead in user <-> kernel transitions:
syscalls, exceptions and interrupts. Even when it's dy
On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 22:55:55 -0400
Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote:
> Because heftig decided it was easier *for him* to do it this way.
>
> Because downloading 100 MB for every single patchlevel release quickly
> builds up to just as much as a full git clone.
>
> Can you tell us why you beli
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