Re: [arch-general] Does makepkg not honor 'provides' of other packages?

2009-08-11 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 22:58 +0200, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > Hey, > > I'm trying to build "luabind" against an alternate "lua" package for > c++. Its name is "lua-c++" and it provides "lua". It is installed > correctly, yet "luabind" won't build with makepkg because of a missing > dependency for

Re: [arch-general] [initscripts] Please revert last commit 757f653

2009-08-23 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 19:06 -0300, Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi wrote: > Hi > > Please revert the last commit[#1], mounting /dev as NOEXEC is incorrect. > This break nvidia GLX extension, vmware, mplayer and possible others > programs that uses mmap() with execute privilege. > > PS: I guess that settin

Re: [arch-general] which package provides ifup & ifdown command ?

2009-08-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 13:02 +0530, Partha Chowdhury wrote: > i cannot find ifup and ifdown in any of the paths- not as a normal user > nor as root user. only command i can use is ifconfig. so i was wondering > which package provides these two binaries ? ifup and ifdown are debian specific commands

Re: [arch-general] What changed: udev PolicyKit - No mount of usb or CD for non-root?

2009-08-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 17:42 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Listmates, > > After updates this past week or so (not sure exactly when), Arch no > longer > mounts usb or CD/DVDs when inserted. What is the most likely culprit? Let me guess... You updated udev, but didn't update hal. The sto

Re: [arch-general] arch-release

2009-08-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 17:45 +1000, richard terry wrote: > /etc/arch-release > > Anyone know what is meant to be in this file > > The guys on the gambas user list are writing some sort of script so users can > identify details of their system in case of bugs etc, and i was asked if > this file

Re: [arch-general] arch-release

2009-08-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:04 +0200, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > maybe we should delete it. > Did you mean 'identifying whether a system is arch linux' (which seems > pretty pointless, you know when a system is arch linux) OR do you mean > 'identify which "version" an arch system is' ? > Assuming th

Re: [arch-general] arch-release

2009-08-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:40 +0200, Gerhard Brauer wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 26.08.2009, 09:56 +0200 schrieb Jan de Groot: > > > As Arch is a rolling release system, we decided to remove the file. But > > as tools use this file to identify Arch systems, we decided to keep the >

Re: [arch-general] introducing kernel26-lts

2009-08-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 10:29 -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote: > I half-way agree. The issue is that, no matter what you _intend_ with > something, people will always do something you don't expect. It's part > of the reason you see warnings like "Do not put in nose" on a package > for an electric toothbru

Re: [arch-general] usr folder on ftp

2009-09-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:37 +0400, Sergej Pupykin wrote: > Hi, > > what is this? > > ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/community/os/i686/usr/ No idea why it's there, looks like an unpacked package. I deleted it from gerolde, but I guess it will be back in a while: gerolde rsyncs from sigurd.

Re: [arch-general] Anyone else who has alsa issues?

2009-09-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 16:40 +0200, Johannes Held wrote: > Tobias Powalowski : > > You use both audacious, could it be just a bug in there? > audacious .. no > > I have multiple sounds while listening to MPD and mplayer or mpg123. > Playing music via mpg123, I have no sound while watching a viedo w

Re: [arch-general] mounting a data dvd fails

2009-09-14 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:00 +0200, JM wrote: > Hello, > > I cannot mount a data dvd. > > mount /dev/dvd /media/dvd > mount: unknown filesystem type 'iso9660' > > I noticed that isofs module, which provides iso9660 is not loaded in > my system. Inserting it, however, results in: > > FATAL: Error

Re: [arch-general] mounting a data dvd fails

2009-09-14 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 16:33 +0200, JM wrote: > The kernel installed is standard kernel26 from [core]. The system is i686. > > pacman -Qi kernel26 > Name : kernel26 > Version : 2.6.30.6-1 > > $ uname -a > Linux hp510 2.6.30-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Sep 9 12:37:32 UTC 2009 > i686 In

Re: [arch-general] X fails to start with intel card after latest kernel update

2009-10-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 12:53 +0200, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > > After the latest kernel update, I cannot start X for the Arch box I have > > that > > has an onboard intel graphics card. (Dell 280GX sff) The errors are: > > > > 02:31 nirvana:/srv/www/download/Archlinux/bugs/supersff> grep "(EE)" >

Re: [arch-general] Mayday - Installed Fresh Archlinux on Laptop - Resolution stuck 1152x864, need 1440x900??

2009-11-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 23:31 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > > http://www.3111skyline.com/download/bugs/kde4/Xorg.0.log Install xf86-video-ati, the vesa driver you're using now is limited to standard VESA resolutions, which usually excludes widescreen resolutions.

Re: [arch-general] preferred laptops.

2009-11-04 Thread Jan de Groot
MSI Megabook S262B: Nice and small laptop, it's a 12" model from the days netbooks weren't invented yet. Everything on this laptop works out of the box since the day I purchased it. Suspend, resume, hibernate, etc. There's a few issues with this machine though: - the inverter is broken in cold env

Re: [arch-general] file system capabilities

2009-11-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 20:42 +0530, Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > Hi, > > I was reading thr. /. commentary on the latest linux kernel bug, got drifted > into file system capabilities. and got this, (from > http://lwn.net/Articles/313838/) > > [r...@presario shridhar]# ls -la /bin/ping > -rwsr-xr-

Re: [arch-general] Mayday - Installed Fresh Archlinux on Laptop - Resolution stuck 1152x864, need 1440x900?? [SOLVED]

2009-11-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 14:43 -0700, Byron Clark wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 03:38:26PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > > A negative side effect of the new console resolution is that vi will > > NOT run. It errors out on start complaining about the text mode size > > being too big. Vim and mc h

Re: [arch-general] No sound after hal update

2009-11-10 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 11:36 +0100, A Rojas wrote: > I just updated to hal 0.5.13-3 and after rebooting the soundcard is not > accessible to non-root users anymore, so there is no sound. Any idea how to > solve this? > Thanks > Hal used to do ACL management, just like udev does. The new release

Re: [arch-general] Howto compile in debugging symbols with makepks so I can use gdb?

2009-11-11 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 09:00 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > Still chasing the keepassx problem. There are no debugging symbols in the > package so I used ABS to build from source, but of course there is no > debugging there either. What's the trick to compile so I can get a meaningful

Re: [arch-general] only detect 1 cpu

2009-11-16 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 13:28 +0100, viodreamlis...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all! > > I have got a quad core procesor but my archlinux only detect 1 cpu. > --- > $ uname -a > Linux Nemesis 2.6.31-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Oct 23 10:03:24 CEST 2009 x86_64 > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz Ge

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:17 +0100, bender02 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier wrote: > > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > > login files as co

Re: [arch-general] xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?

2009-12-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-12-01 at 19:45 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > nope. The hal crap has been added to X a while ago as "optional" > (meaning X would just freeze without it, but at least pretend to > start) > , but the forced dependency is new (as in, it doesnt start when > compiled > with hal, but no

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises (was: xf86-input-evdev conflicts with xorg-server. Remove xorg-server?)

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
as possible without breaking things, and I'm assuming he did > > the same here. > > i was about to state that i didnt target him at all. Then i ran this: > > a...@andariel: ~ (for i in $(grep "Jan de Groot" /var/abs/ -r | cut -d > ':' -f 1); do egrep

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
gt; > summary: > > 1) I suggested reverting the dbus configure > flag to upstream default. > > 2) Jan de Groot closed the bug with WONTFIX > since this revert WILL break > some third party gui configure util. Dbus support in wpa-supplicant is not broken. A no

Re: [arch-general] Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 09:18 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > Jan de Groot wrote: > >> Now you're propably saying numbers of downstream decisions doesn't say > >> anything. Very true, which is why i prefer arguing about "intent" > >> > >&g

Re: [arch-general] Problem loading a site in midori

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 20:04 +1030, Ty John wrote: > I found the problem (this always happens as soon as you ask for > help ;) ) > > I disabled my proxy (squid) and it loads fine. I decided to disable it > after I noticed another website with a different problem. > > Getting this error: > > >SRVE

Re: [arch-general] Problem loading a site in midori

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 20:44 +1030, Ty John wrote: > On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:00:01 +1100 > Mike Sampson wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Ty John wrote: > > > > > > I found the problem (this always happens as soon as you ask for > > > help ;) ) > > > > > > I disabled my proxy (squid) and

Re: [arch-general] conclusion: Another rant on arch way abuse and false promises

2009-12-02 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 17:15 +0530, Piyush P Kurur wrote: > But you can see your xorg-server-antidesktop into the official > packages. Have a look at the wiki for AUR. It clearly says that > packages start as being in AUR and then finally end up in the official > repository after getting enough supp

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 03:38 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > What does upstream have to say about this dependency? Does not seem > > 'necessary' to me > > http://blogs.igalia.com/itoral/2006/03/30/adding-dbus-support-to-gedit/ > > priceless finding. > > let me sum up: > "

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 19:14 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > > Mechanisms have existed for like 20 years before dbus to communicate > > with other programs. > > and those don't require a user space daemon. You're talking crap. Examples of other IPC frameworks are bonobo and dcop. Both launched the

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 00:52 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > Pierre Chapuis wrote: > > > Take gedit for example. It is a text editor, and: > > > > [23:44 TA|catwell] ldd $(which gedit) | grep dbus > > libdbus-glib-1.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2 > > (0x7f5df48bb000) > >

Re: [arch-general] [OT] What is wrong with DBus anyway?

2009-12-04 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 19:49 +0100, Arvid Picciani wrote: > and if you're really unlucky you get dbus to crash hal to crash your > gfx > driver, so your only option left is the power button. Please don't post things you haven't looked into. Hal has nothing to do with your gfx driver, as gfx drive

Re: [arch-general] Inkscape maintainer MIA?

2009-12-15 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 06:19 +0100, Sascha Blank wrote: > Hello, > > Arvid Picciani hat am Montag, den 14. Dezember 2009 um 23:13 Uhr (CET) > folgendes geschrieben: > > > Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > > > 0.47 fails to build with a poppler error :/ > > > > and more. i'd be happy if someone can magical

Re: [arch-general] MAYDAY - drm/mesa/libgl/radeon updates - laptop stuck in 1152x864 - kdm locks on logout!

2009-12-23 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 03:05 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > Ouch! Now, I don't know if this happened after the kernel update to > 26-2.6.32.2-1 or if it just happened tonight with the drm update and > then downgrade. I can't think of any reason the upgrade/downgrade > would have done it unless pacm

Re: [arch-general] MAYDAY - drm/mesa/libgl/radeon updates - laptop stuck in 1152x864 - kdm locks on logout!

2009-12-23 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 03:37 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > Err, yep slow is a nice way to put it. The question is how do I get > back to the usable 2D hardware setup? Should I set KMS back up? I'm up > to date with all packages except the mesa/drm/libgl packages I just > downgraded 1 version. Ever

Re: [arch-general] What ISO will load a kernel in an AMD K62/450?

2009-12-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 20:39 -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > After the recent discussion about arch working well on old hardware, I > decided to dump a suse 10.3 install on an old AMD K6-2/450 and install arch > on it. I downloaded the net install iso i686. I knew if it was truly i686 i

Re: [arch-general] [Request] Remove libpthread-stubs from packages svn/trunk

2010-01-08 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 18:11 +0100, Xavier wrote: > Why doesn't Arch ship that package ? It's a single 6 lines file, it > cannot hurt anything. > I just realized arch patches libdrm to not require it : > http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/libdrm/repos/extra-i686/no-pthread-stubs.patch > But of

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libpng todo list

2010-01-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 19:01 -0500, Daenyth Blank wrote: > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 16:59, Jan de Groot wrote: > > I just created a todo list containing 163 packages. This todo list > > contains all packages that link to libpng and that should get rebuilt > > when we update to

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 03:55 +0100, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > I request using the original cdrtools in place of cdrkit. I know that > it > actually was that way once but it was changed due to uncertainty about > licensing issues. It appears that these issues are now solved with the > conclusion th

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 09:37 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 03:55 +0100, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > > I request using the original cdrtools in place of cdrkit. I know that > > it > > actually was that way once but it was changed due to uncertainty about >

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 11:19 +0100, stefan-husm...@t-online.de wrote: > Hello, > > the only reason I did not move cdrtools to community was that license > reason. So if that is no showstopper anymore, I can maintain it. > > Regards Stefan I just checked alpha10, one of the first versions that

Re: [arch-general] problem with video driver ?

2010-01-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 12:46 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: > > Because they seem to be OK, e.g. transfer speed when using > rsync is what is was before. Anyway the slowest part in the > link is probably the wireless access point anyway. Hmm, wireless... besides being unreliable, it's half-du

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 10:29 -0200, Johann Peter Dirichlet wrote: > Well, there are some lawyer we can just consult to put a thombstone on > this discussion? It will going to nowhere if we can't do this single > "clearing" of legal issues. In fact, this is the only hurdle to put > cdrtools in [commu

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 15:45 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Just to make it clear: > > There is not a single claim from a lawyer that confirms the claims > from > the hostile downstram packager. Looking through the thread on the fedora list they claim there's lawyers confirmed it, but in the sam

Re: [arch-general] KDE 4.3 no power functions ?

2010-01-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 16:10 +0100, Alberto Bonacina wrote: > 2010/1/27 Nilesh Govindarajan : > > I recently installed KDE 4.3.4 > > > > The Leave section in the menu doesn't have power functions like shutdown and > > restart. > > > > How to solve this ? > > There are two answer: > > 1) Are your u

Re: [arch-general] KDE 4.3 no power functions ?

2010-01-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 16:20 +0100, Alberto Bonacina wrote: > 2010/1/27 Jan de Groot : > > 1) Power group? Damn, that's old. Does KDE still use that? > > I don't know if it's old but the beginners guide [1] tolds that when > you want to create a new users you sh

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-27 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 16:39 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > 2. Jörg as the author and seeming copyright holder of both software > cdrecord and mkisofs has already stated that he has no problem with > the release of cdrtools (linking cdrecord against mkisofs) and won't > sue you. If he would be the fu

Re: [arch-general] An old, tiresome discussion: cdrtools vs cdrkit

2010-01-29 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-01-29 at 14:35 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: > I am not sure whether this is the best solution. I recommend to use > star as star > is the oldest free tar implementation and as it supports ACLs since 10 > years > already. Adding more meta data is relatively simple. Implementing it in

Re: [arch-general] ca-cf keyboard layout in hal

2010-01-30 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 08:56 -0500, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: > I cannot find the "cf" variant in the ca layout (canadian french) in > /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst. What happened with it? I am trying > to use a USB keyboard on my laptop, however it gets set as US instead > of ca-cf. I check the

Re: [arch-general] Firefox 3.5.7 not support eh !??

2010-01-31 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 16:58 +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: > Something is seriously funny going on here with FF 3.5.7 (Shiretoko). > > I'm using it from the arch repos, but on visiting Google Help or Orkut, > it says Browser not supported ? > > And the supported browser list says FF 1.5+ > >

Re: [arch-general] kernel-lts ....

2010-01-31 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 10:34 -0600, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > I am new to the list, used Linux since Caldera 2.2. I noticed > references to a kernel-lts, labelled as 'long-time-support' on the Arch > website. I did a bit of googling & noticed references to such from Arch > & Ubuntu

Re: [arch-general] core/linux-api-headers?

2010-01-31 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:45 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 11:26:02PM +0100, Giovanni Scafora wrote: > > 2010/1/31, Hussam Al-Tayeb : > > > Or simply tell him the the package kernel-headers was renamed to > > > linux-api-headers? > > > > Nope, pacman already said him

Re: [arch-general] CDROM cannot mount

2010-02-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 12:26 +0200, Thanos Zygouris wrote: > Hi gyus, > i got a problem...(do not know how/when did it started though). > I cannot mount CD roms...(i do not speak about automounting) > Here is what "dmesg" tells: > > sr 5:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code > sr 5:0:0:0: [sr0] Result:

Re: [arch-general] CDROM cannot mount

2010-02-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 12:51 +0200, Thanos Zygouris wrote: > Thanks for replying... > It's a IDE drive: > 1) wodim --devices > 0 dev='/dev/scd0'rwrw-- : 'TSSTcorp' 'CD/DVDW SH-S182D' > > 2) dmesg | grep sr0 > sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray > > And i did

Re: [arch-general] CDROM cannot mount

2010-02-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 13:20 +0200, Thanos Zygouris wrote: > Output of lsmod | grep cdrom > cdrom 36354 1 sr_mod > > As for the controller, i am not sure...my mothermoard uses the nVidia 430 > chipset...is that enough info? > Could you just attach the output of dmesg?

Re: [arch-general] Libraries should also be built statically

2010-02-01 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:59 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:58:24 +1000 > schrieb Allan McRae : > > > I disagree. Static libraries generally suck and hide rebuilds needed > > for security issues. So unless something specifically needs the > > static library, I think it should

Re: [arch-general] Memory Management problems with 2.6.32

2010-02-06 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 02:09 +0200, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 02/07/2010 02:00 AM, Gaurish Sharma wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using ArchlInux 64bit 2.6.32.7-1. but having some memory allocation > > errors, > > > > it might be because of oss. > > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18014 I'm thinking more ab

Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds

2010-02-08 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 13:37 -0700, Brendan Long wrote: > Couldn't the piecemeal update problem be fixed by just putting > version > numbers in the depends() section in each updated package, so for the > libpng rebuild for example, depends(... libpng>=#.#)? It would fix > the > problem in the mos

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-08 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 18:52 +0100, Xavier Chantry wrote: > It seems the question was not only about kms but also about dri2, > which is needed to get 3d support with kms. > > About nouveau, ums was dropped from ddx on 11th January and > extra/xf86-video-nouveau package is from 17th January. So the

Re: [arch-general] KMS again with 2.6.33?

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 01:20 +0100, Xavier Chantry wrote: > That's true, but the conflict goes both way. And the situation isn't > different with ati vs fglrx, is it ? > > Anyway, there is no reason to enable nouveau in the kernel, the > current out-of-tree build is just fine and allows for more fr

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 19:17 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 09.02.2010 19:11, schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský: > > Hi, > > I just found out that policykit on my package is no longer needed. > > Because it looked strange to me a took a look at other packages and > > found polkit package. What is the diffe

Re: [arch-general] policykit vs polkit

2010-02-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 00:04 +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > policykit and policykit-gnome will die soon. At this moment only > pulseaudio in community uses it, but I'm sure someone has ported that > to polkit also. I just checked upstream and Fedora: either the pulseaudio package i

Re: [arch-general] [patch] AIF, partition table compatibility with grub2.

2010-02-22 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 23:21 +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Just poked around with grub2 and kvm, > you really need the extra space, else it will fail to install. > creating partitions with cfdisk will also leave this space. With nowadays RAID and SSD stuff you want to align your partitions on

Re: [arch-general] HAL depreciation

2010-03-17 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 03:06 +0100, Damjan Georgievski wrote: > Does anyone know how much of HAL is needed in ArchLinux these days? > I'm asking because I've learned that both udev and HAL configure the > keymap of input devices nowdays and > I wonder what other former HAL features are already imple

Re: [arch-general] MySQL Starts But Fails to Restart

2010-03-24 Thread Jan de Groot
When you stop MySQL, the kill command completes immediately, while MySQL is still doing shutdown tasks to make sure the database is in a consistent state. As MySQL is still running when you try to start it, it will fail to do so. There's 2 ways to fix this: - use mysqladmin shutdown, needs a user i

Re: [arch-general] tmpfs

2010-03-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 00:53 +0900, Juan Diego wrote: > Good day everyone, > > I want to delete the next two lines from my fstab: > > none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0 > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 > > however I would like to know the secondary effects of doing such > thing, all the informat

Re: [arch-general] testing xorg-server 1.8 [xorg18]

2010-04-06 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 01:30 +0200, Marek Otahal wrote: > ...well, here's an update after a deeper tryout :) > *touchpad(synaptics) - issues with tapping which does not > work /buttons do/ For the previous synaptics package, we used to include default configuration that enables tapping. With the r

Re: [arch-general] xorg-server 1.8 - Wiki?

2010-04-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 09:34 -0400, pyther wrote: > > Has there been any work on a wiki entry for Xorg 1.8? I don't see > anything on the main wiki. I just don't want to duplicate efforts. > > Cheers! Nothing has been done on documentation yet. Feel free to use the documentation from Fedora

Re: [arch-general] xorg-server 1.8 - Wiki?

2010-04-09 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 16:01 -0400, pyther wrote: > Alright I started editing the wiki. The majority of the changes were > made under the configuration section. I pretty much copied verbatim > the > InputClasses section. If someone can look over them and possibly > improve > the wiki I would appr

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] xorg-server 1.8 repository

2010-04-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 23:41 -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > > Things todo before this merges to extra: > > - Fix xf86-video-siliconmotion, xf86-video-unichrome, xf86-video-nouveau > > I'm curious as to what this means. In

Re: [arch-general] 4k sector drives

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 20:52 -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote: > has anyone installed arch on one of these drives? thinking about > buying a pair and running them mirrored... but not sure if everything > will be working optimal. note: since I'll have to migrate off an > existing drive I can use the tools

Re: [arch-general] 4k sector drives

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:31 +0200, Uli Armbruster wrote: > I can second that, I don't have Arch installed on a 4k drive but I > have an external drive, which I partitioned with fdisk -c -u /dev/sdX > and there's no speed drop at all, so you can use this command line > without any worries Some of t

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 10:35 +0100, Nathan Wayde wrote: > Do you mind listing these Gnome dependencies, or at least your > proposed > PKGBUILD? > I've looked at this and I can see only 2 (gconf and libsoup-gnome). > Ofcourse that is based on the assumption that the pacma dependencies > are > corr

Re: [arch-general] HAL dependencies

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-04-18 at 01:33 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 18.04.2010 01:22, schrieb Rob Bean: > > It looks like there are only 3: gnome-vfs, > gstreamer0.10-good-plugins, and > > vlc. I can use ABS to rebuild these without HAL, but I'm concerned > that > > these packages may actually need it.

Re: [arch-general] gstreamer0.10-good-plugins need a whole load of GNOME stuff?

2010-04-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 06:22 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > Would you prefer the developer reimplement security-authorization and a > configuration parser, then? Its not even as if gconf and its editor > aren't separated into different packages. As long as GNOME doesn't start using it, that would

Re: [arch-general] Latest NVIDIA en kernel update

2010-04-23 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 15:35 +0200, Patrick Baumgart wrote: > Another one: I also have in mind that glxgears, started without > parameters on default size, gets me around 45000 fps and now it has > abouot 15000 fps. glxgears is NOT A BENCHMARK. This simple demo just confirms that 3D works, nothing

Re: [arch-general] Firefox graphics licensed under MPL

2010-05-03 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sun, 2010-05-02 at 13:28 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote: > Why not do like we're told then, and send them an email? "Arch has > such and such package, with such and such modifications. Firefox logo > is now under MPL and it looks like we can add it to our package. Can > we?". We did that before, an

Re: [arch-general] Brasero Wont Copy Disks

2010-05-03 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 16:11 -0400, Carlos Mennens wrote: > I just installed Brasero to burn / copy disks. I first added my user > 'carlos' to the 'optical' group. However when I try and copy a disk on > my machine, I get an immediate error that says it fails. Then when I > save the log, it's blank.

Re: [arch-general] testing xorg packages may not be nvidia friendly

2010-05-17 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 18:37 -0400, Caleb Cushing wrote: > I tried installing testing on a box running nvidia drivers that I have > at school. X didn't come up. I don't know why and didn't really > investigate (as I was really testing to see if my box at home had an > env issue seems it does). using

Re: [arch-general] Question regarding the ArchLinux iso core image

2010-05-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 03:17 -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > Hi. > I've recently seen threads on this list pertaining to interesting issues with > the Arch Linux core isos. > I haven't had that problem in my primary tests of those Isos in particular. > Is there any reason why a successful installation

Re: [arch-general] Fw: NDN: Question regarding the ArchLinux iso core image

2010-05-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 05:04 -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > Hey guys, I wanted to forward this message. > Has anyone ever gotten this? I get this consistently when posting messages to > Arch-General, from the following email adddress. > Hope someone can tel me why this happens-or talk to whomever own

Re: [arch-general] BASH no longer does 'for i in $(ls); do ls $i; done'??

2010-05-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 01:41 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > So the bottom line is don't alias 'ls'. And, I guess, the next > question would > be, how or where can I safely customize the behavior of ls without > screwing > myself again. Solution is simple: don't use ls for the for loops you're doi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel 2.6.34-1

2010-05-19 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 16:39 +0200, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 19.05.2010 16:19, schrieb Dan McGee: > > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Thomas Bächler > > wrote: > >> Am 19.05.2010 10:56, schrieb Evangelos Foutras: > >>> Also did a diff [1] between the file lists of kernel26-firmware-2.6.34-1 > >

Re: [arch-general] A question about Arch Sixty Four

2010-05-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 17:05 +0200, Nicky726 wrote: > I have experimentally found out, that 64 bit Linux distro uses like 40 -- 80 > % > more of RAM than 32 bit. Now it seemed to be both aplication and distro > dependant, with Arch being on the better side. Though I've got to say again, > it >

Re: [arch-general] new pc; keep arch installation?

2010-05-25 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 15:46 +0200, Vincent Schut wrote: > Hi, > > I'm going to get a new pc, replacing my now more than 5 years old pc. I > would like to keep my current arch installation, and hope to prevent the > need to do a full reinstall. I like the software I have, and I like the > config

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:35 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > ust to make clear how picky license violations are handled with > Solaris, check > that "libcdio" has been removed from Solaris distributions in 2007 > because of > the license violations in libcdio that have been found by Sun lawyers >

Re: [arch-general] Burning From Command Line

2010-05-26 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:29 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Jan de Groot wrote: > > > > Sun legal department. Do you know of a single Linux distro that > > > dropped libcdio > > > because of the obvious licence violations in libcdio? > > > > Libc

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:16 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > Good day, > > I'm getting an error every time I plug-in my webcam as a result the > corresponding module is not being loaded automatically so I have to > load it by myself. Any one knows a way to fix this? > > This is the error: > > l

Re: [arch-general] udev

2010-06-07 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 15:49 +0900, Juan Diego Tascón wrote: > Actually it is installed, it is called gspca_zc3xx, if I load it the > webcam works, the thing is it is not being loaded automatically > > > All modules have device aliases for the devices it supports. Udev just > > tries to load a modu

Re: [arch-general] Xorg-server 1.8 - when?

2010-06-16 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 09:14 +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to ask what are the plans for the xorg-server 1.8, especially > now when RC1 of xorg-server 1.9 is out. Please don't get me wrong, I'm > not demanding anything but I'm wondering what is holding back the move > to [extra].

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] dropping flashplugin x86_64

2010-06-17 Thread Jan de Groot
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 00:53 -0700, Patrick Burroughs wrote: > Personally, if it wasn't for HTML5 I wouldn't be able to use YouTube. > My laptop is ancient and decrepit, and cannot handle Flash on Linux, > but the element works just fine, and loads as fast as I'm used > to Flash video loading. Mayb

Re: [arch-general] Boost

2010-06-21 Thread Jan de Groot
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 23:56 +0200, Alexander Duscheleit wrote: > But there seems to be a trend starting in this direction which worries > me a little. IIRC there is nothing holding back Xorg 1.8 except for > legacy nvidia drivers, and that for quite a while. If that is true, > it's even more depre

Re: [arch-general] tp_smapi - LENOVO g470

2012-01-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 12:43 -0300, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote: > Yes, > I'm sure this pacman -U > > Atts, > > Paulo Roberto > > AVISO LEGAL > > LEGAL ADVICE Please, when you mail to this list, why do you insert this stupid legal statement? You're mailing to a public mailinglist that

Re: [arch-general] tp_smapi - LENOVO g470

2012-01-19 Thread Jan de Groot
On do, 2012-01-19 at 14:59 -0300, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote: > Yes, i did it > Atts, > > Paulo Roberto > > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 12:43 -0300, Paulo Roberto P. Evangelista wrote: > >&g

Re: [arch-general] ../libtool: line 2083: ark_part.cpp: command not found?

2012-03-19 Thread Jan de Groot
On ma, 2012-03-19 at 10:42 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Anybody familiar with libtool know if this is a libtool problem or if this > is > a problem with the tdeutil code? If it is libtool, any work-arounds? > Either you're missing a command, or more likely, the fork of libtool included in

Re: [arch-general] is scsi hot swap broken?

2012-05-23 Thread Jan de Groot
On di, 2012-05-22 at 16:05 -0600, Sergey Manucharian wrote: > The controller is : > 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller > [IDE mode] (rev 01) IDE mode isn't supposed to support hotswap. You'll need AHCI or RAID mode for that. What driver is loaded for your

Re: [arch-general] How to print to parallel printer with cups support removed?

2012-08-07 Thread Jan de Groot
On di, 2012-08-07 at 09:06 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Guys, > > How do we print to parallel printers now with cups 1.6.x? By installing cups-filters. The backends have moved over there.

Re: [arch-general] What broke ctrl+c ??

2010-07-19 Thread Jan de Groot
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 00:55 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Can anyone else try in gnome-terminal and see if ctrl+c is broken for > you? Just > type 'ping whatever' and then try to kill ping with crtl+c. I can't > and that's a > problem. > > I'm using using gnome-terminal 2.30.2-1 Check your h

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-03 Thread Jan de Groot
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 01:00 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > Well sometimes the stupid ones among us don't always catch > that dovecot is > being updated when it is one of 73+ updates that take place. But we > 'do' always > catch the failure to copy to sent -- later :p > > Serious

Re: [arch-general] Shouldn't pacman restart dovecot after update?

2010-08-03 Thread Jan de Groot
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 22:39 -0600, Tavian Barnes wrote: > Imagine the story with a different daemon: SSH. You ssh into your > box, su, and pacman -Syu. Halfway through the upgrade, openssh gets > updated, which automatically restarts the server, which SIGHUPs > pacman, which is left in an inconsi

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