Ralf Mardorf writes:
> IIRC, I won't read the thread again, all the mentioned WMs and DEs have
> a past and most likely a future. You might have noticed another thread,
> "plasma 5 crashing". The bloated DEs, especially GNOME and KDE do not
> provide a steady work-flow. New major releases often a
Hey,
> More generally, what do you mean by "work-flow", and how have DEs like
> KDE and Gnome broken "the work-flow" in the past?
By being buggy and lacking features. When I switched to Plasma 5 several
things that I regularly used stopped working, among them:
- Plasmas calendar widget (the one
GNOME
For example, GNOME once provided menu bars and then dropped the menu
bar, you can see this by simply installing e.g. gedit or file-roller.
GNOME requires priority for 3D graphics, if you have bad luck the
combination of graphics driver and graphics doesn't work anymore, if
you run GNOME, eve
Moritz Bunkus writes:
> Hey,
>
>> More generally, what do you mean by "work-flow", and how have DEs like
>> KDE and Gnome broken "the work-flow" in the past?
>
> By being buggy and lacking features. When I switched to Plasma 5 several
> things that I regularly used stopped working, among them:
>
Le 30/12/2015 10:37, Moritz Bunkus a écrit :
> - Plasmas calendar widget (the one opened from the tray) did not
> contain week numbers anymore. I often consulted that widget when
> scheduling meetings with other people. I had to switch to other
> calendars, and this feature hasn't come back yet.
J
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:22:46 +0100, Magnus Therning wrote:
>Personally I've not come across anything in new releases of Gnome that
>has been even close to that irritating.
Dropping the menu bar isn't irritating? Employers need to re-train
staff, if such a radical change happens, not to mention tha
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 12:23:40 +0100, Bruno Pagani wrote:
>Le 30/12/2015 10:37, Moritz Bunkus a écrit :
>> - Plasmas calendar widget (the one opened from the tray) did not
>> contain week numbers anymore. I often consulted that widget when
>> scheduling meetings with other people. I had to switch to
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:57:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Xfce4
>
> After an update e.g. a small window title bar with a clean design,
> became a fat thing with a Microsoft appeal.
Wrong. It's not xfwm4, but the default gtk3 theme. Just use a gtk2 xfwm4 theme
and be happy :) Or better yet,
Hey,
> Just answering this (I agree on the whole point being made) : this was
> an issue for me too, but it has been fixed for a long time now. Just
> do a right click on it, go to settings, and it should be the second
> checkbox right below “Show date” (or something like that). ;)
Ah, that's goo
On Wed, 2015-12-30 at 04:49 -0700, Leonid Isaev wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:57:48AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Xfce4
> >
> > After an update e.g. a small window title bar with a clean design,
> > became a fat thing with a Microsoft appeal.
>
> Wrong. It's not xfwm4, but the default gt
On 30 December 2015 at 10:19, Magnus Therning wrote:
> More generally, what do you mean by "work-flow", and how have DEs like
> KDE and Gnome broken "the work-flow" in the past?
For a good rant on some things that are wrong with Gnome 3 (and GTK 3):
https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05
Hi,
wmctrl could fail, if I want to get the PID that belongs to a window?
assumed I want to kill just one instance of xfw, how could I e.g. get
the PID of the xfw windows?
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ps aux|grep -v grep|grep xfw
rocketm+ 28733 0.2 0.3 126964 13836 pts/4S+ 14:25 0:00 xfw
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 01:15:40PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Zen{,x} are gtk2/gtk3 themes, however, I don't remember if the chosen
> window bar belongs to the Zen{,x} themes, however, it was ok for years
> and _within_ a major release it got broken.
So, if you had a gtk2-only theme like Ops, th
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 06:47:49 -0700, Leonid 'Beef Marsala' Isaev wrote:
>If it is something that uses system resources efficiently and
>alows you to disable unnecessary bloat, then we agree. But this also
>implies that you'd like to use graphics card to render windows, not
>CPU.
I like that the gra
On 30 December 2015 at 14:47, Leonid 'Beef Marsala' Isaev <
leonid.is...@jila.colorado.edu> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I meant stacking as well. And it's not about the looks (a good WM is
> anyway customizable), but the internals. For example, what do you mean by
> lightweigth? If it is something that uses
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:01:56 +0100, Maarten de Vries wrote:
>Lack of compositing has nothing to do with rendering on CPU or GPU.
>Applications can still get an opengl context and render things.
>Compositing simply means that the applications wont be rendering to a
>directly visible buffer but to a
I think, XFCE.
On 12/30/2015 03:11 AM, Francis Gerund wrote:
Wow.
It seems that desktop environments and window managers are like "standards"
- "the good thing is that there are so many of them". :-)
Well, then: which DEs and WMs are MOST likely to be still around (and have
major usage and
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