Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Savyasachee Jha
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Olivier Langlois < oliv...@olivierlanglois.net> wrote: > Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this > new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp > directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer t

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois wrote: > Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this > new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp > directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer to decide > when to clean up and to manuall

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Christos Nouskas wrote: > On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois wrote: >> Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this >> new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp >> directory daily. This is not something that

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Thursday 08 May 2014 09:53:41 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Christos Nouskas wrote: > > On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois wrote: > >> Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this > >> new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automati

Re: [arch-general] makepkg, curl "no route to host"

2014-05-08 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 05/07/14 16:48, Gabriel Ozaki wrote: Like Savyasachee says, try this: DLAGENTS=('ftp::/usr/bin/curl -fC - --ftp-pasv --retry 3 --retry-delay 3 -o %o %u' 'http::/usr/bin/wget -c -O %o %u' 'https::/usr/bin/wget -c -O %o %u' 'rsync::/usr/bin/rsync --no-motd -z %u

Re: [arch-general] KDE Issue

2014-05-08 Thread LoneVVolf
On 07-05-14 22:23, Tomasz Kramkowski wrote: On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 08:01:01AM -0400, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Hi all. I tried to install KDE for testing accessibility with Orca. However, a friend of mine told me that the only icon that shows up is a hard drive, and it sits at this icon forever and

Re: [arch-general] KDE Issue

2014-05-08 Thread Martti Kühne
Hi guys, I've had this problem before. Last time I was able to solve it by installing all the kdebase, phonon-vlc, kdebase-workspace groups. The specific error messages definitely also go somewhere, but I'm not sure where exactly right now. ~/.xsession-errors? cheers! mar77i

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT
> -Original Message- > From: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf > Of Lukas Jirkovsky > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:54 AM > > Please don't start another systemd flamewar. And BTW, automatic /tmp > cleaning was there since the beginning. I agree to not star

Re: [arch-general] Comment on: Use systemd timers instead of /etc/cron.{hourly, daily, weekly, monthly}?

2014-05-08 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, 8 May 2014 14:24:45 +0900 Savyasachee Jha wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > > > > Perhaps a proper approach is to create a special target for your > > maintainance > > jobs which would pull all relevant services and would itself be triggered > > by an > >

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Leonid Isaev
Hi, On Thu, 08 May 2014 02:43:57 -0400 Olivier Langlois wrote: > Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this > new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp > directory daily. This is not something that I like as I prefer to decide > when to cle

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 11:44 AM, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: arch-general [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf >> Of Lukas Jirkovsky >> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:54 AM >> >> Please don't start another systemd flamewar. And BTW, automatic /tmp >

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Alessandro Doro
On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 03:44:51PM +, LANGLOIS Olivier PIS -EXT wrote: > I was forecasting that this comment would come when I wrote the > original request. While I agree with what you say, I think that it is > reasonable to let the user have the control over when it is cleaned. > Without denat

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 03:46 AM, Christos Nouskas wrote: > On 8 May 2014 09:43, Olivier Langlois wrote: >> Since a recent update (I have first noticed a couple of weeks ago this >> new systemd enhancement), systemd started to automatically clean /tmp >> directory daily. This is not something that I like as I

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Nowaker
This is not a rant against Arch or its devs and community, but against systemd; the sad facts speak for themselves. This is a rant against the Arch devs and the Arch community. Several of the developers and several people involved with the community are systemd developers, and there is certainl

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:01 PM, Nowaker wrote: >>> This is not a rant against Arch or its devs and community, but against >>> systemd; the sad facts speak for themselves. > >> This is a rant against the Arch devs and the Arch community. Several of >> the developers and several people involved with the commu

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
> I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote > systemd-networkd. You guess wrong. > You'll probably also be upset that there's going to be > a simple systemd-console from the kmscon developer (who is an Arch user) > and a systemd-timesyncd for basic NTP clients not needin

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:10 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: >> I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote >> systemd-networkd. > > You guess wrong. So you're okay with it providing networking, but not timer units? Timer units were a very simple addition on top of the existing event loo

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Christos Nouskas
Do accept the fact that not everyone is content with everything systemd and just leave it at that. Thank you and bye. -- X https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=m&K=nous http://tiny.cc/linux-pf

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 05:37 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: > Do accept the fact that not everyone is content with everything > systemd and just leave it at that. Thank you and bye. That can be expressed without calling the developers chauvanistic and spreading misinformation. It's yet a free software project a

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 08/05/14 03:40 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > >> [0] http://boycottsystemd.org/ > > There are no facts there. I already responded to this FUD on reddit: > http://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/24zj10/what_are_the_benefits_of_partitioning_disk_space/chcao5u > Whoops, wrong link: http://www.re

[arch-general] NTP: Possible permissions bug

2014-05-08 Thread Kyle Terrien
Hi fellow Archers, I seem to be having trouble with ntpd.service since the 4.2.7 upgrade. I can't get ntpd to run as the ntp user. I'm using the /etc/ntp.conf provided by the package ntp. When starting ntpd.service (systemctl start ntp.service), ntpd spikes the CPU for a moment, and then spikes t

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Guus Snijders
Op 8 mei 2014 21:41 schreef "Daniel Micay" het volgende: > [...] > > and a systemd-timesyncd for basic NTP clients not needing a full blown > server with complicated RTC handling. Just for the record: that is what is called sntp (Simple ntp). Ntp is about clock sync, sntp just sets the clock. As

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/08/2014 05:22 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 08/05/14 05:10 PM, Christos Nouskas wrote: >>> I guess you'll be upset that Tom (one of the Arch developers) wrote >>> systemd-networkd. >> >> You guess wrong. > > So you're okay with it providing net

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 01:01 AM, Mark Lee wrote: > > To all, > > Don't make any of this personal. In addition, I hope the inclusion of > systemd in Arch Linux has more justification than just some Arch > developers are also Systemd developers. Arch may not be a democracy, but > it's not supposed to be infes

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/09/2014 01:22 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 09/05/14 01:01 AM, Mark Lee wrote: >> >> To all, >> >> Don't make any of this personal. In addition, I hope the inclusion of >> systemd in Arch Linux has more justification than just some Arch >> devel

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: > > To Daniel, > > I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical > skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has > technical criticism (at least on this mailing list). Accusing the developers of bad faith and

Re: [arch-general] NTP: Possible permissions bug

2014-05-08 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2014-05-08 18:34:54 -0700] Kyle Terrien: > I took out the "-u ntp:ntp" parameter (so ntp runs as root), and these > errors disappeared. Also, ntpq -p returns the NTP servers I'm > synchronized with. So, I'm pretty sure the issue is permissions related, > but I have no idea what it's running into.

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Mark Lee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/09/2014 01:41 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: >> >> To Daniel, >> >> I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical >> skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has

Re: [arch-general] How to disable systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timer

2014-05-08 Thread Daniel Micay
On 09/05/14 02:02 AM, Mark Lee wrote: > On 05/09/2014 01:41 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: >> On 09/05/14 01:29 AM, Mark Lee wrote: >>> >>> To Daniel, >>> >>> I'm pointing out that respect for people shouldn't affect technical >>> skepticism. People can rant against whomever they want as long as it has >>