Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Hills wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete all >> the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by any package. Then you >> should be able to upgrade. > > And if /lib

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200 Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC > wrote: > > Right after much faffing about i now have the box back to > > So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete all > the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:09:18 +0200 Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Hills > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete > >> all the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200 > Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC >> wrote: >> > Right after much faffing about i now have the box back to >> >> So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need i

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Mauro Santos
On 18-07-2012 08:09, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Andrew Hills wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> So if /lib is NOT a symlink, then all you should need is to delete all >>> the files in /usr/lib that are not owned by any package. Then yo

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Mauro Santos wrote: > It's not in the wiki and I haven't seen it suggested but for really > stubborn and possibly borked cases couldn't one boot from other media > and tell pacman to update outside of the default path with --root, > --cachedir, --config and --gpgd

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:22:53 +0200 Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC > wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200 > > Tom Gundersen wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC > >> wrote: > >> > Right after much faffing about i now have the

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:24 PM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:22:53 +0200 > Tom Gundersen wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 9:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC >> wrote: >> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:46:49 +0200 >> > Tom Gundersen wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM, P .NIKOLIC >>

[arch-general] TexLive custom classes problem.

2012-07-18 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
Hi, I am unable to get custom .cls files detected by the latex program. I have a file "jbnotebook.cls" which works fine when it is placed in the same directory as the the file main.tex. So, the file itself is not a problem. Also, [me@localhost]$ kpsewhich -var-value=TEXMFHOME /home/jayesh/.l

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread Alex Belanger
pacman -Syu --ignore glibc pacman -Su I had the same problem, went to archlinux website and they say exactly what you need to do and why. You shouldn't toy with it yourself, nor use the --force option. Try this, if it doesn't work, they have an in-depth guide too. Otherwise I cannot stress out m

Re: [arch-general] TexLive custom classes problem.

2012-07-18 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Wednesday 18 Jul 2012 16:34:49 you wrote: > Hi, > > I am unable to get custom .cls files detected by the latex program. > I have a file "jbnotebook.cls" which works fine when it is placed in > the same directory as the the file main.tex. So, the file itself is > not a problem. Also, > >

[arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread Sudaraka Wijesinghe
Hi Everyone, I'm playing with a custom kernel just for the fun of it, Everything works fine except it's very noisy when it boots. I'm using the same loglevel (4) as the default kernel that is in the Arch repo. And I have turned off many debug options under kernel hacking section. It does quiet dow

Re: [arch-general] arduino mega2560 and gcc-avr

2012-07-18 Thread andrea crotti
2012/7/17 Karol Babioch : > This can (and to my opinion should) be changed, so you don't need to be > root. See [1] for some examples for various programmers. > > First of all you should try to use the upstream package, which can be > downloaded here [2]. It already contains the necessary tool cha

Re: [arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread martin kalcher
Am 18.07.2012 16:02, schrieb Sudaraka Wijesinghe: Hi Everyone, I'm playing with a custom kernel just for the fun of it, Everything works fine except it's very noisy when it boots. I'm using the same loglevel (4) as the default kernel that is in the Arch repo. And I have turned off many debug opt

Re: [arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread Sudaraka Wijesinghe
On 07/18/2012 08:32 PM, martin kalcher wrote: > Am 18.07.2012 16:02, schrieb Sudaraka Wijesinghe: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> I'm playing with a custom kernel just for the fun of it, Everything >> works fine except it's very noisy when it boots. I'm using the same >> loglevel (4) as the default kernel th

Re: [arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Sudaraka Wijesinghe wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I'm playing with a custom kernel just for the fun of it, Everything > works fine except it's very noisy when it boots. I'm using the same > loglevel (4) as the default kernel that is in the Arch repo. And I have > turne

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:27:57 -0400 Alex Belanger wrote: > pacman -Syu --ignore glibc > pacman -Su > I had the same problem, went to archlinux website and they say > exactly what you need to do and why. You shouldn't toy with it > yourself, nor use the --force option. Try this, if it doesn't work,

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:27:11 +0200 Tom Gundersen wrote: Pruned > > You sholud delete the duplicate files from /usr/lib, did you do this? > Then it _should_ work... > > -t Hi Tom Ok i will give it a whirl see what transpires CheersPete -- Linux 7-of-9 3.4.4-3-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue

Re: [arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread Christoph Vigano
> No, I'm using initscripts, and it does quiet down when I use the kernel > command line parameter as explained in there, but I was wondering how > default Arch kernel is doing it without the command line parameter. It's a patch: % grep -R loglevel /var/abs/core/linux /var/abs/core/linux/change-de

[arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread fredbezies
Hello. Just done an install using arch-install-scripts, and it wasn't so bad. The only bad thing is that grub2 is not available. I busted my installed system trying to install grub 2.0rc1 (wrong UUID in grub.cfg file). I finally installed syslinux while trying to understand what happened. So, gre

Re: [arch-general] Kernel verbosity

2012-07-18 Thread Sudaraka Wijesinghe
On 07/18/2012 09:35 PM, Christoph Vigano wrote: >> No, I'm using initscripts, and it does quiet down when I use the kernel >> command line parameter as explained in there, but I was wondering how >> default Arch kernel is doing it without the command line parameter. > > It's a patch: > % grep -R l

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Kyle
To answer your question about installing GRUB2 by default using install scripts, GRUB2 is now maintained incore, and legacy GRUB has been moved to AUR. Therefore, by the next official iso release, GRUB2 should be a part of the official install, and the install scripts will be updated to support

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Axilleas Pi
On 07/18/2012 07:30 PM, fredbezies wrote: Hello. Just done an install using arch-install-scripts, and it wasn't so bad. The only bad thing is that grub2 is not available. I busted my installed system trying to install grub 2.0rc1 (wrong UUID in grub.cfg file). I finally installed syslinux while

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Pierre Schmitz
Am 18.07.2012 18:30, schrieb fredbezies: > Hello. > > Just done an install using arch-install-scripts, and it wasn't so bad. > The only bad thing is that grub2 is not available. I busted my > installed system trying to install grub 2.0rc1 (wrong UUID in grub.cfg > file). I finally installed syslin

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread fredbezies
2012/7/18 Kyle : > To answer your question about installing GRUB2 by default using install > scripts, GRUB2 is now maintained >incore, and legacy GRUB has been moved to > AUR. Therefore, by the next official iso release, GRUB2 should >be a part of > the official install, and the install scripts

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread fredbezies
[...] > > grub 2 is currently in testing. Once this moves to core and grub1 will > get removed from the repo we will include it for the next iso. Great. Because installing grub2 by hand is kinda hellish. It is why I used archboot on my last real install :) -- Frederic Bezies fredbez...@gmail.com

Re: [arch-general] Trinity - post usrlib move - builds fine!

2012-07-18 Thread David C. Rankin
On 07/17/2012 07:33 AM, Martin Cigorraga wrote: Me too, I was waiting for this to try Trinity on a single-core Pentium 4 / 1.25gb RAM :) It will run great! I have fresh (post usrlib) i686 packages that can be tested, I just need somewhere to host them. The only fixes I have yet to do is upd

[arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc partitions and partition from scratch I can create a 2MiB partition (using MBR and NOT GPT partitioning) be

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via > the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). > > I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc > partitions and partition from scratch I can

Re: [arch-general] ~2 sec delay for Sound events in TDE - need help solving

2012-07-18 Thread David C. Rankin
On 07/17/2012 08:31 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: Doesn't Trinity use artsd for it's audio output for events and such? I would start looking there. Calvin Yes, it uses arts, but with kcontrol -> Sound System -> autodetect I want it to use the Arch default and work right out of the box. That mean

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 07/18/2012 12:46 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked > wrote: >> I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the >> latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). >> >> I know that for a system where I blow away all previou

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Kyle
Oops, sorry for the current misinformation. I didn't realize that GRUB2 was still in testing and hadn't yet been moved to core. I've been keeping up with the list, but my Arch box is currently dead, and won't be revived until I can rebuild it. I somehow thought that the package had been moved al

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread Kyle
I need to take a look at the wiki. I'm currently doing everything on a phone, because my computer is dead and needs to be rebuilt. However, the Arch wiki has been my main source of Arch and general Linux related documentation for some time now. I do agree that the wiki page for the install scrip

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM, fredbezies wrote: > [...] >> >> grub 2 is currently in testing. Once this moves to core and grub1 will >> get removed from the repo we will include it for the next iso. > > Great. Because installing grub2 by hand is kinda hellish. It is why I > used archboot on my

Re: [arch-general] Arch install scripts : feedback and questions.

2012-07-18 Thread fredbezies
2012/7/18 C Anthony Risinger : > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM, fredbezies wrote: >> [...] >>> >>> grub 2 is currently in testing. Once this moves to core and grub1 will >>> get removed from the repo we will include it for the next iso. >> >> Great. Because installing grub2 by hand is kinda hel

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 07/18/2012 12:46 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked >> wrote: >>> I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the >>> latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date).

Re: [arch-general] Still Glibc problems

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 12:27:11 +0200 Tom Gundersen wrote: Pruned > > You sholud delete the duplicate files from /usr/lib, did you do this? > Then it _should_ work... > > -t Hi Tom Well word on the street is it seems to have worked at last now i have another problem cropped up for which i wil

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Kirill Churin
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 12:40 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via > the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). > > I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc > partitions and partition from scratch I can

Re: [arch-general] Glibc problem

2012-07-18 Thread Øyvind Heggstad
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:40:07 +0300 The Touch <01tto...@gmail.com> wrote: > I force updated glib and now I've got an awesome kernel panic! :) > switch_root: failed to execute /sbin/init: no such file or directory > > any ideas on how to fix this? > Thanks in advance! Boot install image, mount stu

[arch-general] New glitch since latest update

2012-07-18 Thread P .NIKOLIC
Hi folks . Well having finally got the Glibc thing sorted and done a "pacman -Syu" which pulled in kernel ect when i try to start Kaffeine it takes almost 2 mins to finally show up , When started from an xterm i get the following errors QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created be

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Churin wrote: > What the fuck is wrong with you, guys? Why didn't you just read the manual? > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation > > Arch follows upstream, you know? > Thank you for your polite reply! I have read the manua

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Taylor Hedberg
mike cloaked, Wed 2012-07-18 @ 22:42:37+0100: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Churin > wrote: > > What the fuck is wrong with you, guys? Why didn't you just read the > > manual? > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation > > > > Arch follows upstream, you k

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Kirill Churin
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:42 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Churin > wrote: > >> What the fuck is wrong with you, guys? Why didn't you just read the manual? >> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation >> >> Arch follows upstream, you

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Christian Hesse
mike cloaked on Wed, 2012/07/18 19:40: > I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via > the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). > > I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc > partitions and partition from scratch I can create a 2MiB

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: > Just ignore the troll. There are a few people on this list who seem to > take offense at the fact that people ask questions about Arch Linux...on > a list for asking questions about Arch Linux. It's one thing if you had > made no effort to

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread Martti Kühne
last time I installed arch on a virtual machine, I was unable to install grub2. one google search later I put the mbr gap of 2MiB back in place and everything went smoothly. 2MiB isn't much by today's standards, and if the software says it needs it, why not just give it? if you find a way to avoid

Re: [arch-general] TexLive custom classes problem.

2012-07-18 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Jayesh Badwaik [2012-07-18 16:34:49 +0530]: > Hi, > I am unable to get custom .cls files detected by the latex program. > I have a file "jbnotebook.cls" which works fine when it is placed in > the same directory as the the file main.tex. So, the file itself is > not a problem. Also, > [me

Re: [arch-general] TexLive custom classes problem.

2012-07-18 Thread Vladimir Lomov
** Jayesh Badwaik [2012-07-18 16:34:49 +0530]: > Hi, > I am unable to get custom .cls files detected by the latex program. > I have a file "jbnotebook.cls" which works fine when it is placed in > the same directory as the the file main.tex. So, the file itself is > not a problem. Also, > [me