Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Of course, that's the point of LC_MESSAGES. What else would it do? > > Well, actually I would expect that the language is set by LANG and not > by LC_MESSAGES. I would expect, and I guess this is what it's meant for, > that just the output on

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:06 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Well, actually I would expect that the language is set by LANG and not > by LC_MESSAGES. I would expect, and I guess this is what it's meant for, > that just the output on stdout or stderr is affected by LC_MESSAGES. > That is, that LC_MESSAGES

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:48:02 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > > You should be careful with LC_MESSAGES if you use desktop > > environments which don't have their own language setting like Xfce. > > ? I know that you're using KDE, if you haven't switched in the meantime. ;-) So, KDE uses its

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 01/08/12||14:11, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 01-08-2012 13:09, Arno Gaboury wrote: > > On 01/08/12||14:46, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara > >> wrote: > >>> Also you can probably disable en_US completely. Most applications use > >>> english as the bu

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Mauro Santos
On 01-08-2012 13:09, Arno Gaboury wrote: > On 01/08/12||14:46, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara >> wrote: >>> Also you can probably disable en_US completely. Most applications use >>> english as the build in locale (locale C), so there is no need to ena

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 14:35, schrieb Heiko Baums: > Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:10:14 +0200 > schrieb Thomas Bächler : > >> I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely >> annoying. >> >> If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I >> recommend this: >> >> LANG=fr_CH.UT

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:10:14 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler : > I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely > annoying. > > If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I > recommend this: > > LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8 > LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 You should be careful

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> LANG= en_US.UTF-8 >> LC_COLLATE=C > > I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely annoying. One possible reason is that asciibetical sorting causes e.g. files named "_foo" or "[foo]" to be sorted before all other items, w

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.08.2012 13:16, schrieb fredbezies: > LANG=fr_CH.UTF-8 > LC_COLLATE=C > > An english speaking system ? > > LANG= en_US.UTF-8 > LC_COLLATE=C I don't know why you set it, but I find LC_COLLATE=C extremely annoying. If you want an English speaking system, but live in Switzerland, I recommend

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Arno Gaboury
On 01/08/12||14:46, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara > wrote: > > Also you can probably disable en_US completely. Most applications use > > english as the build in locale (locale C), so there is no need to enable > > it, as faar as I have understood. >

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jesse Juhani Jaara wrote: > Also you can probably disable en_US completely. Most applications use > english as the build in locale (locale C), so there is no need to enable > it, as faar as I have understood. This is right, but the "C" locale uses US-ASCII, not UTF

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread Jesse Juhani Jaara
ke, 2012-08-01 kello 13:12 +0200, Arno Gaboury kirjoitti: > My Arch is in english, and I live in Switzerland and read documents in > english, french and "swiss" french. Still, I am not sure if I need to > enable all these locales. You do not need any of the ISO-8859-X locales, UTF-8 ons are enough

Re: [arch-general] locale.conf

2012-08-01 Thread fredbezies
2012/8/1 Arno Gaboury : > Dear list, > > even after reading all wiki and man, I am still confused about how to > write locale.conf after recent upgrades. > Here are the 6 locales enabled in locale.gen: > fr_CH.UTF-8 UTF-8 > fr_CH ISO-8859-1 > fr_FR.UTF-8 UTF-8 > fr_FR ISO-8859-1 > fr_FR@euro ISO-88