Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2015-02-11 Thread Sebastiaan Lokhorst
2015-02-11 19:13 GMT+01:00 Jude DaShiell : > Yes, I couldn't create an ef02 partition using fdisk. I ended up using > gdisk and the job got done with no problem at all. You can create a BIOS boot partition ("ef02" in gdisk) in fdisk: Press "p" to change partition type, press "L" to list partiti

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2015-02-11 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes, I couldn't create an ef02 partition using fdisk. I ended up using gdisk and the job got done with no problem at all. On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Since more than a year now, fdisk (provided by util-linux) has had GPT > support. This theoretically m

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-22 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 07:33:43AM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 21.12.2014 um 22:48 schrieb Leonid Isaev: > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 09:49:42PM +0100, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > >> Thanks everyone for your responses! It seems that gdisk is still favorable > >> for advanced tasks, but fdisk

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-21 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 21.12.2014 um 22:48 schrieb Leonid Isaev: > On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 09:49:42PM +0100, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: >> Thanks everyone for your responses! It seems that gdisk is still favorable >> for advanced tasks, but fdisk is can be used for basic tasks, as are >> usually required by beginners.

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-21 Thread Sebastiaan Lokhorst
2014-12-21 22:48 GMT+01:00 Leonid Isaev : > > This is not true. Some low-end modern machines completely drop legacy > BIOS > > boot. So booting via UEFI is required, and thus GPT is required. > > I really doubt this. Are you saying that some vendors on purpose break such > things as booting from a

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 09:49:42PM +0100, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > Thanks everyone for your responses! It seems that gdisk is still favorable > for advanced tasks, but fdisk is can be used for basic tasks, as are > usually required by beginners. No, that was my point: for "advanced" tasks you

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-21 Thread Sebastiaan Lokhorst
Thanks everyone for your responses! It seems that gdisk is still favorable for advanced tasks, but fdisk is can be used for basic tasks, as are usually required by beginners. 2014-12-17 5:43 GMT+01:00 Stefan Höck : > > However, I think we still should consider having only UEFI in the > beginners g

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-21 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:15:26PM +0100, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > On 2014-12-16 19:58, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Since more than a year now, fdisk (provided by util-linux) has had GPT > > support. This theoretically makes gdisk a duplicate of fdisk, and we could > >

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Ido Rosen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:04 AM, David J. Haines wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:30:43AM +0100, Neven Sajko wrote: >> On 16 December 2014 at 20:52, David J. Haines wrote: >> > gdisk is also capable of placing new partitions at the end of a block of >> > empty space without having to do manua

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread Christian Demsar
On December 17, 2014 10:04:43 AM EST, "David J. Haines" wrote: >On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:30:43AM +0100, Neven Sajko wrote: >> On 16 December 2014 at 20:52, David J. Haines >wrote: >> > gdisk is also capable of placing new partitions at the end of a >block of >> > empty space without having to

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-17 Thread David J. Haines
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:30:43AM +0100, Neven Sajko wrote: > On 16 December 2014 at 20:52, David J. Haines wrote: > > gdisk is also capable of placing new partitions at the end of a block of > > empty space without having to do manual calcuation of the start sector. > > I personally find this be

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Stefan Höck
> Until this spring, I used a ~7 year old Dell Precision M4300 laptop. Same here. I installed Arch for the very first time this summer on old hardware to make sure that I did not ruin my running Linux installations. Trying it in VirtualBox would probably have been a better option, but this seemed

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Neven Sajko
On 16 December 2014 at 20:52, David J. Haines wrote: > gdisk is also capable of placing new partitions at the end of a block of > empty space without having to do manual calcuation of the start sector. > I personally find this behavior invaluable. I'm curious why do you allocate partitions to the

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Jeremy Audet
> Speaking from complete ignorance... do significant numbers of people > still use MBR for non-obsolete platforms/machines?​ Until this spring, I used a ~7 year old Dell Precision M4300 laptop. I only got rid of it because I work from home these days and have no need for a laptop at all, and I kne

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > > Speaking from complete ignorance... do significant numbers of people > still use MBR for non-obsolete platforms/machines? > > Regards, > My laptop is the ~10 years old Dell Inspiron B130. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Bardur Arants

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Patrick Burroughs (Celti)
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > On 2014-12-16 20:40, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote: >> I had to use MBR on a relatively recent machine because the >> supposedly-UEFI firmware refused to even recognise GPT disks, let >> alone boot from them. It's still relevant. > > Int

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2014-12-16 20:40, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote: > I had to use MBR on a relatively recent machine because the > supposedly-UEFI firmware refused to even recognise GPT disks, let > alone boot from them. It's still relevant. Interesting. Care to name-and-shame said firmware? (I don't necessar

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread David J. Haines
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:40:48PM -0700, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote: > > The only shortcoming I've run across is fdisk is less capable than > gdisk with hybrid MBRs and can't do GPT->MBR conversion at all. The > former is not something a Beginner's Guide user should be touching, in > my opin

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2014-12-16 20:23, Jakub Klinkovský wrote: > On 16.12.14 at 20:15, Bardur Arantsson wrote: >> On 2014-12-16 19:58, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> Since more than a year now, fdisk (provided by util-linux) has had GPT >>> support. This theoretically makes gdisk a duplicate

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Patrick Burroughs (Celti)
On 2014-12-16 19:58, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > So, now my question: is there anyone who has had bad experiences with > fdisk and GPT partitions, where gdisk was superior? Or any other objections > why we should keep gdisk instructions in the Beginners' guide? The only shortcoming I've run acros

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Jakub Klinkovský
On 16.12.14 at 20:15, Bardur Arantsson wrote: > On 2014-12-16 19:58, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > Since more than a year now, fdisk (provided by util-linux) has had GPT > > support. This theoretically makes gdisk a duplicate of fdisk, and we could > > replace gdisk with f

Re: [arch-general] fdisk vs. gdisk for GPT partitioning

2014-12-16 Thread Bardur Arantsson
On 2014-12-16 19:58, Sebastiaan Lokhorst wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Since more than a year now, fdisk (provided by util-linux) has had GPT > support. This theoretically makes gdisk a duplicate of fdisk, and we could > replace gdisk with fdisk. > > Now, I'm not asking to drop gdisk or anything l