Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Jason, On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: Ok, this is probably going to take a little bit of fiddling. Let's get off the mailing list. Can you open a ticket in the bug tracker where we can talk about this more? Will do. Give me just a bit to register a bugtracker account. Kevin http:

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Jason Chu
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 12:03:17PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Jason, > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: > > >> What does readelf -d /usr/bin/c3270 tell you? Namcap doesn't actually use >> ldd, it uses something faster and more accurate. > > I'm guessing it's the "Shared Library" section

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Jason, On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: What does readelf -d /usr/bin/c3270 tell you? Namcap doesn't actually use ldd, it uses something faster and more accurate. I'm guessing it's the "Shared Library" section that important to namcap. readelf shows: 0x0001 (NEEDED)

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Jason Chu
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 10:47:11AM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Jason, > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: > >> Ok, after building the PKGBUILD and running namcap on it, I got these >> messages: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] a]$ namcap c3270-3.3.7p1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz >> c3270 W: Dependency i

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Jason, On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: Ok, after building the PKGBUILD and running namcap on it, I got these messages: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a]$ namcap c3270-3.3.7p1-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz c3270 W: Dependency included but already satisfied (ncurses) c3270 W: Dependency included but alre

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 29, 2008 11:22 AM, Jason Chu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 07:55:26AM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > > Jason, > > > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: > > > >> Being the guy who wrote namcap, I'm pretty sure it doesn't do this at all. > >> > >> Can I get a copy of

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Jason Chu
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 07:55:26AM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Jason, > > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: > >> Being the guy who wrote namcap, I'm pretty sure it doesn't do this at all. >> >> Can I get a copy of the PKGBUILD to test with? It sounds like it should be >> detecting these...

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-29 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Jason, On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jason Chu wrote: Being the guy who wrote namcap, I'm pretty sure it doesn't do this at all. Can I get a copy of the PKGBUILD to test with? It sounds like it should be detecting these... I sent you a private e-mail with the PKGBUILD attached. Kevin http://www.Ra

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Jason Chu
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 01:17:33PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: > >> I think namcap ignores dependencies in the 'base' group, since >> everyone is expected to have base installed, maybe? I'm not 100% sure >> of its internals in this sense. > > That soun

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: I think namcap ignores dependencies in the 'base' group, since everyone is expected to have base installed, maybe? I'm not 100% sure of its internals in this sense. That sounds like a reasonable possibility. To get an idea of whether it's more comm

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 28, 2008 1:26 PM, Kevin Monceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: > > > That's odd - it looks like it ought to depend on ncurses (and > > openssl?) at the very least. You can run pacman -Qo on those files to > > see what packages they belong to, and st

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: That's odd - it looks like it ought to depend on ncurses (and openssl?) at the very least. You can run pacman -Qo on those files to see what packages they belong to, and stick 'em in the deps. Well, it gets even stranger. I tried adding dependencies

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 28, 2008 12:03 PM, Kevin Monceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: > > > Build the package, then run namcap > > /path/to/pkgname-pkgver-pkgrel.pkg.tar.gz and it'll tell you. If you > > can't even build the package because of missing deps on your system

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Travis Willard wrote: Build the package, then run namcap /path/to/pkgname-pkgver-pkgrel.pkg.tar.gz and it'll tell you. If you can't even build the package because of missing deps on your system, then check out the project's documentation - they're usually pretty good about

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Colin Pitrat
Hi, You should also try to run namcap on the resulting package and not only on the PKGBUILD ;-) Regards, Colin Pitrat Kevin Monceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Arch General User Mailing List cc Subject [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question Kevin Monceaux <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread Travis Willard
On Jan 28, 2008 11:46 AM, Kevin Monceaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found a few mentions of namcap on the wiki. I tried it on the package I > created, which I don't currently have any dependencies listed in, and the > only problems it reports are missing maintainer and CVS id tags. It > menti

Re: [arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question

2008-01-28 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Kevin Monceaux wrote: By the way, What does the name namcap stand for? Kevin I think it's just "pacman" spelled backwards. DR