Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-23 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Heiko Baums's message of 2011-08-19 10:23:27 +0200: > Am Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:03 +0200 > schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa : > > > What can you recommend so I can read more about it? > > yaourt or aurbuild > > Heiko Since slurpy seems to have gone missing I need a new helper. I tried

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-21 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:55:47 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > If someone wants to have pacman and AUR totally separated and don't > want a wrapper for both at the same time, aurbuild is a good > alternative for yaourt. I prefer to have them connected. :-) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world,

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-21 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:57:47 +0200 schrieb José M. Prieto : > I have not used any other helper (only bauerbill, which no longer > works) so I can not speak of them. If someone wants to have pacman and AUR totally separated and don't want a wrapper for both at the same time, aurbuild is a good alt

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-21 Thread José M . Prieto
El sábado 20 de agosto de 2011, Myra Nelson escribió: > To me using an AUR helper to install the deps automattically is > like blindly doing this "pacman -syu" [...] yaourt tells you every dependency it needs to install and stops at every single package, letting you view/edit each PKGBUILD and in

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-20 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 12:30, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:17:40 -0500 > schrieb Myra Nelson : > >> This insures your deps are installed unless the deps are in the AUR. > > As far as I know yaourt installs the deps which are in the AUR > automatically and writes them into the packa

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-20 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:17:40 -0500 schrieb Myra Nelson : > This insures your deps are installed unless the deps are in the AUR. As far as I know yaourt installs the deps which are in the AUR automatically and writes them into the package database, so that pacman is aware of those dependencies, to

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-20 Thread Myra Nelson
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 01:51, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:22:16 +0200 > "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > > > pacman is the package manager. > > > > and AUR is "Unsupported packages are user produced content. Any use of > > the provided files is at your own risk." > > I

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-20 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 19 Aug 2011 10:43 -0500, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > 2011/8/19 Cédric Girard : > > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > >> I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > >> It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > >> command for everything is

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:22:16 +0200 "Andre \"Osku\" Schmidt" wrote: > pacman is the package manager. > > and AUR is "Unsupported packages are user produced content. Any use of > the provided files is at your own risk." I'm very well aware of it. However, when I install package with AUR, my syste

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:01:42 +0200 Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you > actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so > far? As far as I can remember there were some glitches with clyde, > but I haven't heard anyth

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 09:41:18 +0200 Martti Kühne wrote: > I'm pretty content with bruenig's packer myself, but I recommend you > read the wiki entry about how to use ABS - all aur helpers are in a > first stage about automation of downloading source tarballs and > makepkg -i. Thank you. I'll tak

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread tuxce
Le 19 août 2011 18:06, Cédric Girard a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > >> >> >> I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up >> to this point where you lost me. >> For me, "lack of quality" is in the same category as "lack of quality >>

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Martti Kühne
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:53 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > and you can use the bash keyword `command` to suppress function lookup > and avoid a loop, but still use $PATH. oh that's much prettier. thx. been relying on $(which $0) for the $PATH part. mar77i

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti >> wrote: >>>    # Better yaourt >>>    yaourt () { >>>        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >>>        then >>>        

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Kazuo Teramoto wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti > wrote: >>    # Better yaourt >>    yaourt () { >>        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >>        then >>            /usr/bin/yaourt -Sayu >>        else >>            /usr/bin/yaourt $@ >>  

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Kazuo Teramoto
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti wrote: >    # Better yaourt >    yaourt () { >        if [[ $# == 0 ]] >        then >            /usr/bin/yaourt -Sayu >        else >            /usr/bin/yaourt $@ >        fi >    } > > For something more terse: yaourt () { yaourt $

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Cédric Girard's message of 2011-08-19 18:06:53 +0200: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > > > > > I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up > > to this point where you lost me. > > For me, "lack of quality" is in the same categ

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > I agree that your arguments have a valid point of view all the way up > to this point where you lost me. > For me, "lack of quality" is in the same category as "lack of quality > impacts speed" > For example, lets have the same badly w

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > >> I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. >> It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common >> command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and >> you have one of the

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > you have one of the simplest ways to do a complete

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Buce
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > > > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > > you have one of

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > I've used yaourt for a couple of years now. > It has always worked for me for the most part, and having a common > command for everything is very convenient for me. alias y=yaourt and > you have one of the simplest ways to do a complete up

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
2011/8/19 Cédric Girard : > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > >> I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you >> actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so >> far? >> > > At the time of packer first release (January 2010),

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Kyle
I've been using pbfetch, and it works pretty well for me. I'm of course open to trying some of these other packages as well. The really great thing is that you can have them all installed, and then uninstall the packages you don't need once you've made your choice. ~Kyle Sent from my Wishdroid!

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Karol Babioch wrote: > I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you > actually know of it, and don't want to use it ;)? Is there any flaw so > far? > At the time of packer first release (January 2010), yaourt was slow and had some awful

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Andre "Osku" Schmidt
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > Soon I may buy a new netbook and I believe that with ATI graphic, Arch is > better choice, but looking at forums yesterday I saw that both bauerbill & > clyde are gone. :-( > > Considering that decent package manager is very vital part

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Nicholas MIller
I use yaourt without any problems. Used Clyde prior. And I don't notice any major differences On Aug 19, 2011 7:02 PM, "Karol Babioch" wrote: Hi, Am 19.08.2011 08:49, schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa: > Before clyde I used yaourt (which now has C-back end, afaik), tried paktahn > (which has some

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Karol Babioch
Hi, Am 19.08.2011 08:49, schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa: > Before clyde I used yaourt (which now has C-back end, afaik), tried paktahn > (which has some quirks) and now I see pacaur (with cower). I'm using yaourt and am now wondering what is wrong with it, when you actually know of it, and don't wan

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:03 +0200 schrieb Gour-Gadadhara Dasa : > What can you recommend so I can read more about it? yaourt or aurbuild Heiko

Re: [arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-19 Thread Martti Kühne
I'm pretty content with bruenig's packer myself, but I recommend you read the wiki entry about how to use ABS - all aur helpers are in a first stage about automation of downloading source tarballs and makepkg -i. you could pretty easily automate the main tasks of that in a script and voilà - you go

[arch-general] replacement for clyde

2011-08-18 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
Hello! Some months ago I switched my desktop from Arch to FreeBSD to experiment a bit. Soon I may buy a new netbook and I believe that with ATI graphic, Arch is better choice, but looking at forums yesterday I saw that both bauerbill & clyde are gone. :-( Considering that decent package manager