Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Attila
At Mittwoch, 18. November 2009 14:07 Xavier wrote: I hope this could be a help for someone who knows how to configurate pam.-) > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). Opensuse with the KDE43 repo has no /etc/pam.d/kde file and they used f

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Caleb Cushing
> As far as the people I know, passwd -d and passwd -l are the most > common ways to do this. They do NOT change the shell. Changing the > shell to lock out an account is laughable expiredate would be more appropriate but again it didn't seem to be instant. locking the password is good but it 'rep

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread RedShift
Caleb Cushing wrote: so here's the problem I've discovered http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's and arch's developers responses are less than satisfactory. This is a security bug

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > Caleb Cushing wrote: >> >> so here's the problem I've discovered >> >> http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html >> < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's >> and arch's

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Jan de Groot wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:17 +0100, bender02 wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier wrote: >> > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are >> > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). >> > >> > Finally, maybe it makes sen

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Jan de Groot
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 14:17 +0100, bender02 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier wrote: > > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > > login files as co

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread bender02
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Xavier wrote: > And I am curious to know what the pam settings of other distro are > (debian,fedora,gentoo,..). > > Finally, maybe it makes sense to try keeping all the different pam > login files as consistent as possible. But I don't know enough about > pam to te

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Xavier
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Caleb Cushing wrote: > so here's the problem I've discovered > http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html > < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's > and arch's developers responses are less th

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread bender02
2009/11/18 Ng Oon-Ee : > The *disadvantage* is that the devs/maintainers have to patch up-stream. > This should be kept to a minimum, primarily to reduce their workload, > and also because it is ASSUMED that if you use Arch, you're capable of > doing the Right Thing (tm) according to your situation

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 03:49 -0500, Caleb Cushing wrote: > > > > Minimal modification of packages. Allow users to choose for themselves > > instead of doing work for them. I fail to see the security implications > > here for the common user, why would someone want to lock out a user > > without dele

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-18 Thread Caleb Cushing
> > Minimal modification of packages. Allow users to choose for themselves > instead of doing work for them. I fail to see the security implications > here for the common user, why would someone want to lock out a user > without deleting the account except a system admin, who presumably would > kno

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-17 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 02:24 -0500, Caleb Cushing wrote: > > Oh no. It has been 1 day and my "bug" is not fixed! I must blog about it so > > the world listens to me... > > also no one has presented a /good/ reason for not fixing it, only > reasons they don't think it should be fixed. you could do

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-17 Thread Caleb Cushing
> Oh no.  It has been 1 day and my "bug" is not fixed! I must blog about it so > the world listens to me... also no one has presented a /good/ reason for not fixing it, only reasons they don't think it should be fixed. you could do abc or d things that I can think of... but no one has said why sec

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-17 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > Caleb Cushing wrote: >> >> so here's the problem I've discovered >> >> http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html >> < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's >> and arch's

Re: [arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-17 Thread Allan McRae
Caleb Cushing wrote: so here's the problem I've discovered http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's and arch's developers responses are less than satisfactory. This is a security bug

[arch-general] pam settings INSECURE

2009-11-17 Thread Caleb Cushing
so here's the problem I've discovered http://xenoterracide.blogspot.com/2009/11/bypassing-disabled-accounts-with-kdm.html < links to arch bug included posting here because I believe both kde's and arch's developers responses are less than satisfactory. This is a security bug an easy to fix without