Thanks Dennis for your input.
To sum up, in your opinion the proposed approach is clean in terms of
Arch guidelines. You also consider decoupling packages a good thing in
general *provided* there is a sound reason for that. There isn't in your
opinion.
What is important is that I brushed asi
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 06:10:39PM +0100, Nowaker wrote:
> Guys, the goal of this "slanted ranting" (really?) is to propose a
> good solution and make Arch better.
Please refrain from implying that the current state needs being made better in
the first place. This is exactly what we're trying to d
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:10:39 +0100
Nowaker wrote:
> Guys, the goal of this "slanted ranting" (really?) is to propose a good
> solution and make Arch better. Please think out of the box and answer
> one question:
>
> Would a separate netctl-wifi-menu package that depends on dialog,
> wpa_suppl
Guys, the goal of this "slanted ranting" (really?) is to propose a good
solution and make Arch better. Please think out of the box and answer
one question:
Would a separate netctl-wifi-menu package that depends on dialog,
wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd be better or not - and why?
My answer is yes
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:22:50 +0100
> From: enwuk...@gmail.com
> To: arch-general@archlinux.org
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] netctl provides wifi-menu which is unusable
>
>> Have you looked at netctl's optional dependencies
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 03:24:38PM +0100, Simon Thelen wrote:
> I don't consider this nonsense, wifi-menu is not an essential part of
> netctl so dialog shouldn't be in the depends. wifi-menu also isn't
> important enough to receive its own package. I see zero problem with
> wifi-menu remaining a b
On 27/02/14 at 13:22, Nowaker wrote:
> Optdepends are used for software like lighttpd or apache where some optional
> modules may need these optdepends. /usr/bin/wifi-menu is a first class
> citizen of this package, not just some optional module.
wifi-menu isn't so much a "first-class-citizen" as i
> Have you looked at netctl's optional dependencies?
Of course I have but the question is - what is the point of providing a
binary that doesn't work at all without some optdepends?
Optdepends are used for software like lighttpd or apache where some
optional modules may need these optdepends.
> To: arch-general@archlinux.org
> From: 31337h4c...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 04:44:20 +
> Subject: Re: [arch-general] netctl provides wifi-menu which is unusable
>
> Nowaker gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> Hey
Nowaker gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hey,
>
> Why does netctl provide /usr/bin/wifi-menu which is unusable at all,
> given the fact it needs /usr/bin/dialog to operate, and this is not a
> hard dependency of the package?
>
> I don't really get a point of providing a binary/script that doesn't
> w
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 08:56:34PM -0600, Garrett Hopper wrote:
> This would be great. It's always annoyed me that it's sitting there
> unusable.
>
I don't usually play this card, but netcl takes up 7 kilobytes of disk
space---an infinitesimal amount relative to many core *NIX utils---and only run
This would be great. It's always annoyed me that it's sitting there
unusable.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Toyam Cox wrote:
> Wifi-menu as a separate package makes the most sense, avoids the issue of
> some netctl users not wanting wifi-menu, being able to configure their
> networks themselv
Wifi-menu as a separate package makes the most sense, avoids the issue of
some netctl users not wanting wifi-menu, being able to configure their
networks themselves or using something else to search for wifi networks.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Daniel Leining wrote:
> Yeah, I agree on thi
Yeah, I agree on this. It should be a dependency of netctl, or wifi-menu be
a separate package with dialog as a dependency.
Just my two cents.
Hey,
Why does netctl provide /usr/bin/wifi-menu which is unusable at all,
given the fact it needs /usr/bin/dialog to operate, and this is not a
hard dependency of the package?
I don't really get a point of providing a binary/script that doesn't
work at all. What is it in the package for?
I
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