Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-15 Thread Florian Pritz
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 13:08:55 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: > On 08/13/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: > > AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped > > up and > > added support to devtools for putting split packages in different repos. > > Nobody > > willing to do th

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Damian Nowak
>> AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up >> and >> added support to devtools for putting split packages in different repos. >> Nobody >> willing to do the work is a valid reason. > Excellent. I'll tackle that then. Good luck! Let us know about a progress.

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 12:37 PM, Doug Newgard wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and ad

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Doug Newgard
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:09:46 -0700 Joe Julian wrote: > There is a reason the other distros publish the debug symbols. It's > valuable and there's no valid reason not to. AFAIK, right now the reason it can't happen is because nobody has stepped up and added support to devtools for putting split

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 10:58 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug will probably be fine with that. I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building debug ver

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: > >>Bandwidth is probably the main problem, although anyone who wants to debug > >>will probably be fine with that. > >I think you guys misunderstood me. The biggest problem IMHO with building > >debug > >versions locally is not compiling

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:55 AM, Evan Penner wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but s

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/13/2015 06:47 AM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled by default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not crucial in most cases. Cheers, There's no

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging > enabled > > >> by > > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > > >> crucial

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 03:11:58PM +0200, Evan Penner wrote: > >> I would personally prefer that most packages come with debugging enabled > >> by > >> default. Surely, there will be a performance cost, but speed is not > >> crucial in > >> most cases. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > > > > There's no perf

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-13 Thread Evan Penner
On 08/12/2015 05:02 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: >> >>> It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every >>> other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely >>> rebuilding a >>> package, saving countle

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Joe Julian
On 08/12/2015 05:02 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a package, saving countless combined hours.

Re: [arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Joe Julian wrote: > It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every > other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a > package, saving countless combined hours. > > Why can't we just have a way of instal

[arch-general] debug package repositories again

2015-08-12 Thread Joe Julian
It's been hashed and rehashed, but I need to bring this up again. Every other popular distro has a way of debugging without completely rebuilding a package, saving countless combined hours. Why can't we just have a way of installing the symbols? When I find a bug, I don't want to spend another