Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-12 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:01 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I > believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that > doesn't get mounted until later in the boot process. You should still get boot messages during boot ev

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
> I was reading this and it reminded me of what you said Anthony: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove > > -- > Jonathan Vasquez I'm definitely going to be moving back to my old drive (with the old partition style /dev/sda1 EF02, /dev/sda2 ALL LVM (Boot, /, , swap, home)) and using ini

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:36 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Jonathan Vasquez >> wrote: >>> >>> Simplicity and minimalism would be what motivates me the most. If I >>> don't need an initramfs to get my

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 12:36 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Jonathan Vasquez > wrote: >> >> Simplicity and minimalism would be what motivates me the most. If I >> don't need an initramfs to get my system boot up, why have one? I know >> the benefits that initra

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > > Simplicity and minimalism would be what motivates me the most. If I > don't need an initramfs to get my system boot up, why have one? I know > the benefits that initramfs provides, but I don't need any of them. > All I need my computer

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:19 PM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Jonathan Vasquez > wrote: >> Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I >> believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that >> doesn't get mounted until later in

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread C Anthony Risinger
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:01 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I > believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that > doesn't get mounted until later in the boot process. > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Jonathan Vasq

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:03 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Is there any way to choose when to load specific stuff? In gentoo you > could do this by selecting a runlevel by name (sysinit, boot, default, > shutdown). I don't know if this is possible in Arch. Not sure if that's what you're asking ab

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I > believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that > doesn't get mounted until later in the boot process. > > -- > Jonathan Vasquez Is there any way to ch

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Jonathan Vasquez > wrote: >> but should the initramfs be integrated enough into >> the system where the output messages don't get displayed?) > > I think the initscripts produce what you see while booting

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
Btw, for the first picture, it says that /usr is not mounted. I believe that is because my /usr in in /dev/mapper/arch-usr and that doesn't get mounted until later in the boot process. -- Jonathan Vasquez

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Karol Blazewicz
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > but should the initramfs be integrated enough into > the system where the output messages don't get displayed?) I think the initscripts produce what you see while booting and shutting down. Is there anything written to your /var/log/boot

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
>> Btw, there are nowadays many more reasons why using an initramfs is >> preferred. By depending on initramfs, you can simplify system >> initialization greatly. In the future, it is likely that booting a Linux >> system without initramfs will only be possible in very simple cases - at >> least th

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
>> When I compiled my custom kernel (from upstream, and yes I did enable >> device mapper support compiled into the kernel, I've also experimented >> with it as a module), the kernel fails to see the / partition. > > Short answer: It's not possible. The kernel is unable to scan for LVM > and activa

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-09 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 09.01.2012 04:58, schrieb Jonathan Vasquez: > Hello everyone, > > So I've been experimenting on removing my use of initrd and using the > kernel directly. > > My current setup is the following: > > GPT, LVM, GRUB2 (So I can boot my partitions that are inside the LVM). > > /dev/sda1 BIOS Boot

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-09 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Jonathan Vasquez > wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> So I've been experimenting on removing my use of initrd and using the >> kernel directly. >> >> My current setup is the following: >> >> GPT, LVM, GRUB2 (So I

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-09 Thread Jan Steffens
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Jonathan Vasquez wrote: > Hello everyone, > > So I've been experimenting on removing my use of initrd and using the > kernel directly. > > My current setup is the following: > > GPT, LVM, GRUB2 (So I can boot my partitions that are inside the LVM). > > /dev/sda1 BIO

Re: [arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-08 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
Btw, If I do decide to go with the alternative layout, then I ask myself what is the point of complicating my life and using GRUB2? If the /boot and / will be on physical partitions, the only reason I see to use GRUB2 is for the official GPT support (as oppose to GRUB-Legacy patched GPT support).

[arch-general] Removing initrd (For use with GRUB2, LVM, GPT)

2012-01-08 Thread Jonathan Vasquez
Hello everyone, So I've been experimenting on removing my use of initrd and using the kernel directly. My current setup is the following: GPT, LVM, GRUB2 (So I can boot my partitions that are inside the LVM). /dev/sda1 BIOS Boot Partition EF02 (GPT) /dev/sda2 Linux LVM (named arch) /dev/arch/b