Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 10:43 -0400, Ray Kohler wrote: > Try /sys/class/sound/card0 (or card1, or whatever number). Without USB spinymouse@precise:~$ ls /sys/class/sound card0 card2 controlC1 dmmidi dmmidi2 midi midi2 midiC1D0 pcmC0D0c pcmC1D0c pcmC2D0c seq card1 controlC0 contr

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Ray Kohler
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Stephen E. Baker wrote: > On 18/06/2012 9:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 15:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 08:34 -0400, Stephen E. Baker wrote: it involves being able to identify which device your usb

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Stephen E. Baker
On 18/06/2012 9:48 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 15:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 08:34 -0400, Stephen E. Baker wrote: it involves being able to identify which device your usb sound device is. "So run: udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda (replace sda with you de

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Nelson Marambio
/dev/* ? /var/media/* ? Original-Nachricht > Datum: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:48:26 +0200 > Von: Ralf Mardorf > An: arch-general@archlinux.org > Betreff: Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers > On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 15:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 15:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 08:34 -0400, Stephen E. Baker wrote: > > it involves being able to identify which device your usb sound > > device is. > > "So run: > udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda > (replace sda with you device)" - > http://www.banqui

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-06-18 at 08:34 -0400, Stephen E. Baker wrote: > it involves being able to identify which device your usb sound > device is. "So run: udevinfo -a -p /sys/block/sda (replace sda with you device)" - http://www.banquise.org/hardware/how-to-automatically-run-a-script-after-inserting-a-usb

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-18 Thread Stephen E. Baker
On 15/06/2012 8:30 PM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: Still not on my laptop, but I searched around, posted it a while back on the pulseaudio wiki. Here it is http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/FAQ#How_do_I_switch_the_default_sound_card.2C_moving_all_applications.3F Again, not sure if by now

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-17 Thread poljarinho
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:52:16PM +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: > Since the change from Win 7 to Arch there is just one function I > really miss up to now. Perhaps someone of you can help me out. > > Is it possible that Arch deactivates the internal speakers of my > laptop when I plug in my USB-h

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-16 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Jun 16, 2012 10:31 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" wrote: > > > And > > then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must conform to your > > standards, which by the way something like cups also fails. Man, I can't > > believe my office photocopier can't print out stapled copies using cups, it > > sho

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> And > then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must conform to your > standards, which by the way something like cups also fails. Man, I can't > believe my office photocopier can't print out stapled copies using cups, it > shouldn't be called a standard until it can do that ANYONE ca

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On-topic: Perhaps the OP find something helpful here: http://0pointer.de/lennart/ Hth, Ralf -- OT signature, feel free to reply !!!off-list only!!! Since two list members call each other names. One bone of contention: "Mon, 16 Jan 2012 PulseAudio vs. AudioFlinger" - http://0pointer.de/blog

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:23:54 +0800 > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > >> Your "facts" are opinions and assumptions, mostly about putting words >> in the mythical "pulse fanboy's" mouth. Not to mention totally >> unhelpful to the discussion. > > I would sa

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/12 18:45, Heiko Baums wrote: > > This sounds like PA isn't a dependency for GNOME any longer? This > would mean that it's just a downstream bug, and PA should be > handled as an optional dependency or not as a dependency at all by > the distr

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:23:54 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > Your "facts" are opinions and assumptions, mostly about putting words > in the mythical "pulse fanboy's" mouth. Not to mention totally > unhelpful to the discussion. I would say, your nonsense is unhelpful. And my "facts" are facts. Just re

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:08:40 -0700 schrieb David Benfell : > I found it more annoying to uninstall pulseaudio than difficult. And > it's fair to say I was already annoyed, so there has also been a > cathartic element to it. > > Basically, using whatever package manager was appropriate to the > di

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Jun 16, 2012 4:48 AM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: > > Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:05:11 +0800 > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > > > That load of drivel below isn't bashing? You refer to fanboys and > > proceed to list a whole loss of statements not made by anyone in this > > thread. And then you insist that for pul

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/12 13:29, Heiko Baums wrote: > > I must admit that I'm not a GNOME user, I'm using Xfce, but I > don't think that it is the right way to force the users to install > PA as a dependency, even if PA can be uninstalled afterwards. On > the other

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 16 Jun 2012 00:05:11 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > That load of drivel below isn't bashing? You refer to fanboys and > proceed to list a whole loss of statements not made by anyone in this > thread. And then you insist that for pulse to be standard it must > conform to your standards, which

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:27:47 -0700 schrieb David Benfell : > I think it *might* be possible to configure PulseAudio to work > correctly. But in my experience, only LinuxMint has gotten this right > out of the box. Unfortunately not. The configuration methods you find in the web, in several forums

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Łukasz Redynk
W dniu 15.06.2012 17:53, Oon-Ee Ng pisze: On Jun 15, 2012 9:19 PM, "Łukasz Redynk" wrote It basically means that driver for your card is buggy, or is wrongly advertised by BIOS to kernel and bad driver is assign to handle the card. In that situation you could try to manually assign it. At [1]

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Nelson Marambio
You wrote that you're a newbie and that you use GNOME, I am new to Arch but have used Linux for years already before. But there were often problems with release upgrade, lately worse with Mint that is a nice distro though. So I got Arch recommended as of its bleeding-edge-style. I wouldn't b

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 20:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > OSS (obsolete) and ALSA are the instances that are needed for audio. > Pulse and Jack are "layers". Sorry for my broken English. You need one of both, the obsolete OSS or the current used ALSA. Stuff similar to PA and jackd, there were (are)

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Nelson :) don't worry. I try to explain in simple words, so it's not a perfect explanation. We are humans, nobody is a "fanboy" neither a "troll". Since you seem to be a human too, you soon will be familiar with this stuff too. On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 20:00 +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: > After

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
Having a bit more time to think now, to the OP, if this discussion hasn't scared you off, ask me for my device switching script, am not at my laptop now. And for Heiko On Jun 15, 2012 9:23 PM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: > > I haven't tried using the latest PA for a couple of weeks, because I've >

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Jun 15, 2012 9:19 PM, "Łukasz Redynk" wrote > It basically means that driver for your card is buggy, or is wrongly advertised by BIOS to kernel and bad driver is assign to handle the card. In that situation you could try to manually assign it. At [1] you've got comprehensible thread what to do

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/12 04:52, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:22:45 +0800 schrieb ShichaoGao > : > >> True! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA in previous >> versions. > > Wrong! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA, because PA

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:00:56 +0100 schrieb Mauro Santos : > Have you actually tried using the latest pulseaudio for a couple of > weeks? For supported hardware it sure does something somewhat similar > to what the OP wants. > > It sure seems you have some gripe with pulseaudio and/or pulseaudio's

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Łukasz Redynk
Hi, You have rather new laptop, right? So most probable is that you have soundcard based on HDA chipset, you could check this with this command (type it in your favourite terminal emulator, like xterm or gnome-terminal): $ lsmod | grep hda If you see something like "snd_hda_codec" it means th

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Mike
On 15/06/12 14:12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 13:00 +0100, Mauro Santos wrote: Have you actually tried using the latest pulseaudio for a couple of weeks? For supported hardware it sure does something somewhat similar to what the OP wants. It sure seems you have some gripe with pu

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 13:00 +0100, Mauro Santos wrote: > Have you actually tried using the latest pulseaudio for a couple of > weeks? For supported hardware it sure does something somewhat similar to > what the OP wants. > > It sure seems you have some gripe with pulseaudio and/or pulseaudio's > u

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Mauro Santos
On 15-06-2012 12:42, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:06:20 +0800 > schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > >> Yes, why not repeat that opinion in every thread where pulse is >> brought up? Its not like its repetitive. > > Yes, why not repeat that suggestion installing PulseAudio in every > thread where

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:22:45 +0800 schrieb ShichaoGao : > True! > Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA in previous versions. Wrong! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA, because PA just still doesn't work with their audio cards, and because PA still causes more problems than i

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 18:06:20 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng : > Yes, why not repeat that opinion in every thread where pulse is > brought up? Its not like its repetitive. Yes, why not repeat that suggestion installing PulseAudio in every thread where somebody has a simple question about selecting an aud

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Apologize for the "Freudian slip" ;) > So neither doesn't PA cause an issue for the OP, nor does it satisfy > the OP's needs. So neither PA does cause an issue for the OP, nor does it satisfy the OP's needs.

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 12:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I agree with Heiko Baums and Oon-Ee Ng, this is possible because ... > > If PA should be able to solve the OP's issue, then it's unimportant what > issues PA could cause. > > If somebody replies with a guess, that PA might solve the iss

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-15 at 18:06 +0800, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Heiko Baums > wrote: > > Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 > > schrieb Chris Sakalis : > > > >> Hello, > >> pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On > KDE > >> , Kmix supports pulseaudi

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread ShichaoGao
True! Maybe many people got the bad impression of PA in previous versions. Talk about serious sour grapes .. I have 2 sound cards one internal and a USB one with PA gives me a lot less bother than ALSA did .. Pete

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread P .NIKOLIC
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:04:30 +0200 Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 > schrieb Chris Sakalis : > > > Hello, > > pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On > > KDE , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto > > switching too. > >

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Oon-Ee Ng
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 > schrieb Chris Sakalis : > >> Hello, >> pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On KDE >> , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto >> switching too. > > PulseAudi

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:17:45 +0300 schrieb Chris Sakalis : > Hello, > pulseaudio[1] has that functionality. You should check it out. On KDE > , Kmix supports pulseaudio and I am pretty sure it support auto > switching too. PulseAudio is more or less crap. It still doesn't support (semi-)professio

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Sakalis
> [mailto:arch-general-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Nelson Marambio > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:52 PM > To: arch-general@archlinux.org > Subject: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers > > Since the change from Win 7 to Arch there is just one function I really miss >

Re: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-14 Thread Eric Ryan Jones
-boun...@archlinux.org] On Behalf Of Nelson Marambio Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:52 PM To: arch-general@archlinux.org Subject: [arch-general] Muting internal speakers Since the change from Win 7 to Arch there is just one function I really miss up to now. Perhaps someone of you can help me out.

[arch-general] Muting internal speakers

2012-06-14 Thread Nelson Marambio
Since the change from Win 7 to Arch there is just one function I really miss up to now. Perhaps someone of you can help me out. Is it possible that Arch deactivates the internal speakers of my laptop when I plug in my USB-headset and turn input / output to this ? In Windows I could define the