On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 01:36:15PM -0200, André Ramaciotti da Silva wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 04:06:34PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> > Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200
> > schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
> >
> > > I know, I know, they always come back. :P
> > > My Arch installation is
Brendan Long wrote:
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:56 +0800, Gergely Imreh wrote:
2009/11/24 Ng Oon-Ee :
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:19 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
I'm actually using Arch primarily because it's so little work to make
your own packages (I realized that no distro is going to have every
p
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 21:56 +0800, Gergely Imreh wrote:
> 2009/11/24 Ng Oon-Ee :
> > On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:19 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I'm actually using Arch primarily because it's so little work to make
> >> your own packages (I realized that no distro is going to have every
>
2009/11/24 Ng Oon-Ee :
> On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:19 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm actually using Arch primarily because it's so little work to make
>> your own packages (I realized that no distro is going to have every
>> package I want, although Arch has most of them). In most cases bui
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:19 -0700, Brendan Long wrote:
>
> I'm actually using Arch primarily because it's so little work to make
> your own packages (I realized that no distro is going to have every
> package I want, although Arch has most of them). In most cases building
> the next version of a
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 16:17 +0100, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:19 +0100
> Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> > Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:17:13 -0200
> > schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
> >
> > > I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo.
> > > Arch is one of t
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 04:06:34PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200
> schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
>
> > I know, I know, they always come back. :P
> > My Arch installation is still in my HD, just in case.
> >
> > About disk usage, don't forget that arch keeps
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:49:19 +0100
Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:17:13 -0200
> schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
>
> > I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo.
> > Arch is one of the best distros I've used, but when you use a
> > (primarily) binary distro
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:06, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200
>> And finally, yes, there are optdeps, but pacman don't handle them as
>> nicely it handles obligatory dependencies. If I install an optdep as
>> an explicit installed package, when I uninstall the other packag
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:16:46 -0200
schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
> I know, I know, they always come back. :P
> My Arch installation is still in my HD, just in case.
>
> About disk usage, don't forget that arch keeps a cache of downloaded
> packages. So I don't think Gentoo is in disadvantag
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:49:19PM +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:17:13 -0200
> schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
>
> > I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo.
> > Arch is one of the best distros I've used, but when you use a
> > (primarily) binary d
Le Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:46:44 -0800,
Giovanni Scafora a écrit :
> mplayer != everything
Agreed, and mplayer is meant to be compiled on the machine on which it
is used. No set of dependencies will ever make all the users happy. You
should use one of the packages on the AUR for that, with Yaourt if
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:17:13 -0200
schrieb André Ramaciotti da Silva :
> I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo.
> Arch is one of the best distros I've used, but when you use a
> (primarily) binary distro, the number of choices you have is reduced.
>
> I don't blame the
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:17 PM, André Ramaciotti da Silva
wrote:
> I don't want to flame, but that's why I recently moved to Gentoo. Arch is
> one of the best distros I've used, but when you use a (primarily) binary
> distro, the number of choices you have is reduced.
>
> I don't blame the devs,
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:31:37 +0200
schrieb Ionut Biru :
> like i said previous better to have that feature. Removing that
> feature just because _you_ don't use and _you_ want to have minimal
> packages is not the way.
I agree with you. It was just a question. As it's not possible to put
smbclien
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 02:31:37PM +0200, Ionut Biru wrote:
> On 11/23/2009 02:24 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> > Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:54:49 +0100
> > schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
> >
> >> Some depends are made for convenience, you can build the packages
> >> with ABS without those depends, if they don'
2009/11/23, Heiko Baums :
> But if I wanted to compile everything manually I would have stayed with
> Gentoo. ;-)
mplayer != everything
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On 11/23/2009 02:24 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:54:49 +0100
schrieb Tobias Powalowski:
Some depends are made for convenience, you can build the packages
with ABS without those depends, if they don't stop the program from
starting remove them and add then to ignore array in pac
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 12:54:49 +0100
schrieb Tobias Powalowski :
> Some depends are made for convenience, you can build the packages
> with ABS without those depends, if they don't stop the program from
> starting remove them and add then to ignore array in pacman.conf.
But if I wanted to compile e
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:53:12 -0800
schrieb Giovanni Scafora :
> Why do you don't fill a bug report for those packages?
Because I didn't know if this is a bug and if smbclient can indeed be
moved to optdepends which isn't possible as Ionut has written.
Heiko
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:03:55 +0200
schrieb Ionut Biru :
> can't be an optdepends.
>
> pacman -Rd smbclient
>
> mplayer
> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libsmbclient.so.0:
> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> smbclient is kinda important for those packa
On 11/23/2009 01:49 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:30:50 +0800
schrieb Gergely Imreh:
Anyway, this is just an observation, Arch seems to do quite well in
general (thanks Maintainers:). I'll look around the repos again and
might come up for some more repackaging ideas for the next
Am Montag 23 November 2009 schrieb Giovanni Scafora:
> 2009/11/23, Heiko Baums :
> > I'm running a Linux only system, so I don't need samba. Wouldn't it be
> > possible to move smbclient from depends to optdepends in the affected
> > packages?
>
> Why do you don't fill a bug report for those pa
2009/11/23, Heiko Baums :
> I'm running a Linux only system, so I don't need samba. Wouldn't it be
> possible to move smbclient from depends to optdepends in the affected
> packages?
Why do you don't fill a bug report for those packages?
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Am Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:30:50 +0800
schrieb Gergely Imreh :
> Anyway, this is just an observation, Arch seems to do quite well in
> general (thanks Maintainers:). I'll look around the repos again and
> might come up for some more repackaging ideas for the next bug
> squashing day or something...
I
> Yes, I looked akonadi's Makefile and we can split akonadi package in
> akonadi and akonadi-server easy. I'll do some try tomorrow.
That would be cool, thanks :)
2009/11/23 Andrea Scarpino :
> On 23/11/2009, Gergely Imreh wrote:
>> Maybe because people have personal preferences, since all these
>> applications are different from each other?
> So don't be unhappy if they requires dependencies that aren't made for
> your environment :)
I'm sorry, to me this
On 23/11/2009, Gergely Imreh wrote:
> Maybe because people have personal preferences, since all these
> applications are different from each other?
So don't be unhappy if they requires dependencies that aren't made for
your environment :)
> As a comparison, looking at the Ubuntu packaging of digi
2009/11/23 Andrea Scarpino :
> On 23/11/2009, Phillip Smith wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So, there's currently a frustrating chain of dependencies:
>>
>> digikam -> kdepimlibs -> akonadi -> mysql
>>
>> So to manage my digital photos, I need a relational database
>> system...! On a desktop system that I
> from digiKam's description:
> "Digital photo management application for KDE"
> If you don't use KDE, why do you want to use a kde-based application
> without KDE dependencies?
The KDE part doesn't bother me... It's more the mysql.
I do use Gnome, but having KDE as deps doesn't matter to me. It
On 23/11/2009, Phillip Smith wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So, there's currently a frustrating chain of dependencies:
>
> digikam -> kdepimlibs -> akonadi -> mysql
>
> So to manage my digital photos, I need a relational database
> system...! On a desktop system that I don't use for development, it's
> a bi
Hi all,
So, there's currently a frustrating chain of dependencies:
digikam -> kdepimlibs -> akonadi -> mysql
So to manage my digital photos, I need a relational database
system...! On a desktop system that I don't use for development, it's
a bit annoying to have to have mysql taking up space, do
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