Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 02/07/2011 11:12 AM, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 11:07 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 02/07/2011 10:51 AM, Olivier Keun wrote: What are your thoughts about this? I'm hoping to get an official reaction from our dev-team, so we can avoid some of the confusion that is present now. t

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
On 7 February 2011 17:33, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 07.02.2011 10:26, schrieb Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE: >> Maybe it would be better if a more fundamental line is drawn between the >> two, such as the website design like Ionuț mentions. And a clear statement >> on the ArchBang website that it is _n

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE
Sorry Jelle, i think you misunderstood, i definitely do want their support taken place on their own forums. I merely meant they (ArchBang) should explicitly _not_ tell users to seek support on our forums -- which is what is happening now. 2011/2/7 Jelle van der Waa > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 10:26

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 10:26 +0100, Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE wrote: > I also have no problem with other distros using Arch as a basis, but the > problem is that it causes a pretty big influx of newbies who have no idea > how to configure and maintain Arch since they installed a one-click > installer

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE
We've had a few occurrences on the Arch forums where it became clear that ArchBang actually ships some changed configs, so this could become quite confusing i guess. 2011/2/7 Thomas Bächler > Am 07.02.2011 10:26, schrieb Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE: > > Maybe it would be better if a more fundamenta

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 17:12 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 11:07 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > > On 02/07/2011 10:51 AM, Olivier Keun wrote: > > > > > > What are your thoughts about this? I'm hoping to get an official reaction > > > from our dev-team, so we can avoid some of the conf

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 07.02.2011 10:26, schrieb Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE: > Maybe it would be better if a more fundamental line is drawn between the > two, such as the website design like Ionuț mentions. And a clear statement > on the ArchBang website that it is _not_ an official Arch project. Maybe it would be a goo

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 10:26 +0100, Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE wrote: > I also have no problem with other distros using Arch as a basis, but the > problem is that it causes a pretty big influx of newbies who have no idea > how to configure and maintain Arch since they installed a one-click > installer.

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Olivier Keun | CAPSTONE
I also have no problem with other distros using Arch as a basis, but the problem is that it causes a pretty big influx of newbies who have no idea how to configure and maintain Arch since they installed a one-click installer. The devs have mentioned before that we want to attract serious, competen

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 11:07 +0200, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > On 02/07/2011 10:51 AM, Olivier Keun wrote: > > > > What are your thoughts about this? I'm hoping to get an official reaction > > from our dev-team, so we can avoid some of the confusion that is present > > now. > > > > there is nothing wrong

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 09:51 +0100, Olivier Keun wrote: > On the forums, we see an increasing number of threads about ArchBang. > Understandably so, since not only does it carry "Arch" in the name, it also > uses the same styling [1], and supposedly users are told there to use the > Arch wiki and f

Re: [arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 02/07/2011 10:51 AM, Olivier Keun wrote: What are your thoughts about this? I'm hoping to get an official reaction from our dev-team, so we can avoid some of the confusion that is present now. there is nothing wrong with this distro and others distros that have arch as a base. Is good t

[arch-general] ArchBang and other derivates resemblance to Arch

2011-02-07 Thread Olivier Keun
On the forums, we see an increasing number of threads about ArchBang. Understandably so, since not only does it carry "Arch" in the name, it also uses the same styling [1], and supposedly users are told there to use the Arch wiki and forum for support. People are asking if ArchBang is an official