Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-09 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 04/10/10 01:36, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: if you don't mind running old versions of software... which I do... I take it that you don't feel that "pacman -Syu" or if applicable something like "yaourt -Syu –aur" Will bring your Arch system as fully up to date as installing the latest Ubunt

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-09 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Apr 8, Isaac Dupree did say: > On 04/08/10 07:21, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: > > My take on it is that while it's always a good idea to be using a > > current install medium, with Arch it only matters that your system is > > able to become current via update. The releas

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-08 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 04/08/10 07:21, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: My take on it is that while it's always a good idea to be using a current install medium, with Arch it only matters that your system is able to become current via update. The release of a new install set in itself should never be a reason to reinst

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-08 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Apr 8, Lukáš Jirkovský did say: > Hi David, > > It doesn't matter whether you use the > > latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first > > update, > > you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. It is the > > smartest > > way to

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
Hi David, > It doesn't matter whether you use the > latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first update, > you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. It is the > smartest > way to do a Linux distribution -- hands down. I don't agree with you. For 99 % (

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread fons
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 07:51:54PM +0200, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:44:22 -0500, "David C. Rankin" > wrote: > > ... It doesn't matter whether you use > > the > > latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first > > update, > > you will have the exact same

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:45:41 -0500, "David C. Rankin" wrote: > I missed that completely in my train of thought. But without the change in > package compression it would still hold true. Prior to the xz compression > change, I had had no problems using the 2/09 install media even after the >

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/07/2010 12:51 PM, Pierre Schmitz wrote: > > It's not entirely true. You always should install using the latest iso and > it is also important to release new isos regularly. Due to our continuous > updates and changes old isos and especially netinstall are broken. For > example you cannot run

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Matěj Týč
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 12:44 -0500, David C. Rankin wrote: > > ( if the other distros were 1/2 as smart as Arch, they would all be using a > rolling-release model... ) > > Not true. If you want a distro that "just works", you need to really test a lot before you change a version of the package

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread Pierre Schmitz
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:44:22 -0500, "David C. Rankin" wrote: > ... It doesn't matter whether you use > the > latest install set or the one from 3 'releases' back, after the first > update, > you will have the exact same, current Arch Linux we all have. It's not entirely true. You always should i

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-07 Thread David C. Rankin
On 04/03/2010 04:59 PM, Keith Hinton wrote: > Hi, > First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the > Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the > Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. > I was curious, seeing as the last Arch Linux relea

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread fons
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 09:23:31AM +0200, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > You still need some install CD/Flash/whatewer to do the initial > install and the current one is rather old. I had a lot of headache > caused by the old installer, because I need kernel >=2.6.31 (IIRC > installer contains 2.6.29 or

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
"release team" currently that means me. yes, i'm working on new images. see: http://build.archlinux.org/isos/ http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-releng/2010-March/thread.html progress is rather slow, but there is not so much work anymore, so they'll come.. Dieter

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
>> You still need some install CD/Flash/whatewer to do the initial >> install and the current one is rather old. I had a lot of headache >> caused by the old installer, because I need kernel >=2.6.31 (IIRC >> installer contains 2.6.29 or 2.6.30) to install Arch on my notebook. > archboot isos conta

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Tobias Powalowski
Am Sonntag 04 April 2010 schrieb Lukáš Jirkovský: > On 4 April 2010 00:01, wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:59:18PM -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > >> First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the > >> Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the > >>

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-04 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 4 April 2010 00:01, wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:59:18PM -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > >> First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the >> Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the >> Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. >

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-03 Thread fons
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 05:59:18PM -0400, Keith Hinton wrote: > First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the > Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the > Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. > I was curious, seeing as the last Arc

[arch-general] Arch Linux Release Question

2010-04-03 Thread Keith Hinton
Hi, First of all, if anyone is curious as to why I have posted to the Arch-General mailing list, I'm mainly doing this, in case any of the Arch Release team is actually hanging out on this list. I was curious, seeing as the last Arch Linux release was in August of last year, if there will be one fo