Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > Yes but part of systemd is installed with udev as I understand it? > > Have you tried to strip out udev from systemd so you can use sysvinit > without anything from systemd ? The systemd daemon is not installed. However, lots of little tools are

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/10/2012 08:54 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote: On 08/10/2012 08:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: OT: Btw. it would be nice if everybody has got the choice to use or not to use systemd. IMO there's no need to talk about pros and cons, Poettering again a

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > On 08/10/2012 08:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> OT: Btw. it would be nice if everybody has got the choice to use or not >> to use systemd. IMO there's no need to talk about pros and cons, >> Poettering again and again. I suspect we use differen

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/10/2012 08:11 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: OT: Btw. it would be nice if everybody has got the choice to use or not to use systemd. IMO there's no need to talk about pros and cons, Poettering again and again. I suspect we use different mail clients, daemons etc. too. Sadly, I don't think in t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Long-term report: The NM applet within the Xfce panel still is ok. I expect to get issues from time to time using NM, but until now even those didn't happen. Again, no systemd ;). OT: Btw. it would be nice if everybody has got the choice to use or not to use systemd. IMO there's no need to talk ab

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Martin Zecher
Thanks a lot for the package, but unfortunately I'm still experiencing this bug: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=144763 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421577 Because of the rules posted in gentoo's bugs, I thought I could fix this annoyance with polkit 107 but wasn't the case.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/08/2012 08:30 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: what if one wants a system not unlike a Unix system? Might be too late, but you could try contacting: . -t They just filed chapter7 Maybe I can pick up a bargin

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: > what if one wants a system not unlike a Unix system? Might be too late, but you could try contacting: . -t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Baho Utot
On 08/08/2012 05:50 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: On 08/08/12 10:52, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 09:38:40 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: Works fine here with the "nearly Poettering-free" system. I'm using KDE networkmanager applet. I tested a system-wide wifi connection and it worked

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 8 August 2012 10:52, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: > On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 09:38:40 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: >> Works fine here with the "nearly Poettering-free" system. I'm using >> KDE networkmanager applet. I tested a system-wide wifi connection and >> it worked fine. > > Are you able to use KDE wi

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 11:50:33 Jelle van der Waa wrote: > What if Poettering writes a kernel patch, are you going to stop using > linux then? > The poettering rants are a bit silly, since multiple devs work on > Pulseaudio and Systemd. > > But back on topic, yes you can run KDE fine without Pul

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On 08/08/12 10:52, Jayesh Badwaik wrote: > On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 09:38:40 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: >> Works fine here with the "nearly Poettering-free" system. I'm using >> KDE networkmanager applet. I tested a system-wide wifi connection and >> it worked fine. > > Are you able to use KDE without

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Jayesh Badwaik
On Wednesday 08 Aug 2012 09:38:40 Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > Works fine here with the "nearly Poettering-free" system. I'm using > KDE networkmanager applet. I tested a system-wide wifi connection and > it worked fine. Are you able to use KDE without all the Poettering stuff? -- Cheers and Regard

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-08 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 8 August 2012 00:10, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: >> Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with >> networkmanagement applet. > > I didn't put it in testing as I guess it needs some discussion. > However, I committed what I have t

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 02:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 03:33 +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: > > Do you also have network-manager-applet? > > The old polkit console+systemd patch broke the applet not the daemon. > > [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ grep DAEMONS /etc/rc.conf > # DAEMONS >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 03:33 +0300, Ionut Biru wrote: > Do you also have network-manager-applet? > The old polkit console+systemd patch broke the applet not the daemon. [spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ grep DAEMONS /etc/rc.conf # DAEMONS DAEMONS=(69switch_xorg.conf hwclock syslog-ng !network !netfs crond

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Ionut Biru
On 08/08/2012 01:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 00:10 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: >>> Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with >>> networkmanagement applet. >> >> I didn't put it in testing as I guess i

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Ray Kohler
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: >> Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with >> networkmanagement applet. > > I didn't put it in testing as I guess it needs some discussion. > However, I committed what

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi I'm not running KDE, but Xfce, with > > $ pacman -Qi networkmanager > Name : networkmanager > Version: 0.9.4.0-6 > $ pacman -Qi polkit > Name : polkit > Version: 0.105-1 > > and I'm nearly Poettering-free

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 00:10 +0200, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: > > Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with > > networkmanagement applet. > > I didn't put it in testing as I guess it needs some discussion. > However, I committed

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Martin Zecher wrote: > Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with > networkmanagement applet. I didn't put it in testing as I guess it needs some discussion. However, I committed what I have to svn so that everyone can have a look easily, and I up

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-07 Thread Martin Zecher
Yes, please! Putting it in testing may solve my issues with networkmanagement applet. On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Aug 6, 2012 7:48 PM, "Martin Zecher" wrote: > > > > I also need a newer version of polkit, since the current one (105) broke > > compatibility with kd

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-06 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Aug 6, 2012 7:48 PM, "Martin Zecher" wrote: > > I also need a newer version of polkit, since the current one (105) broke > compatibility with kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jan Steffens > > wro

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-06 Thread Martin Zecher
I also need a newer version of polkit, since the current one (105) broke compatibility with kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: > On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jan Steffens > wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Ray Kohler > wrote: >

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-02 Thread Ray Kohler
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Ray Kohler wrote: >> As it's been marked out-of-date for a while, and I'm interested in it, >> I've done the work to upgrade the polkit package to 0.107. I've tested >> this package locally. The main value of th