Re: [arch-general] disable fourth mouse button

2013-08-28 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/2013 09:09 PM, David Benfell wrote: > > I use both chromium and firefox on an ongoing basis. I'd rather > just tell the driver to ignore the button. > I found xev. It identifies the button as 8. But it seems like the i

[arch-general] disable fourth mouse button

2013-08-28 Thread David Benfell
helping me. And the Arch Wiki mouse articles seem to be leading in a different direction. Can someone point me in the right direction? I use both chromium and firefox on an ongoing basis. I'd rather just tell the driver to ignore the button. Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux on servers?

2013-07-09 Thread David Benfell
al, it is probably prudent to just wait a day. - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Usin

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] /usr move - update instructions

2013-06-02 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/02/2013 01:39 AM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 02/06/13 18:21, David Benfell wrote: >> >> I'm wondering if this bit assumes that bash is the shell in use >> (I happen to prefer zsh). >> > > No. It is for inst

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] /usr move - update instructions

2013-06-02 Thread David Benfell
wondering if this bit assumes that bash is the shell in use (I happen to prefer zsh). Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 02:32 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > > In any case, booting a default installation without init= is > supported and recommended, and we will make sure it keeps working. > Good. That alleviates a lot of my concern. - -- D

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
installation instructions, and I didn't see this. Is it the Arch recommendation to add this kernel option at boot time? Or will /sbin/init point to /usr/lib/systemd/systemd for the foreseeable future? - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
say, I think it's okay. But I'd like to keep better abreast of changes--and especially the thinking that goes into them--so I understand the pacman output when I see it. - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG informati

Re: [arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/13/2013 12:26 AM, Hussam Al-Tayeb wrote: > On Sunday 12 May 2013 22:32:03 David Benfell wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I was alarmed, I think unnecessarily, when I saw the message that >> a symlink for systemd was removed on

[arch-general] about the removal of that systemd symlink...

2013-05-12 Thread David Benfell
track of changes like this so I'm not surprised? Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: U

[arch-general] Something going awry with gdm's handoff

2013-05-08 Thread David Benfell
409]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.service failed to load...ce' for details. gdm starts, I am able to select my user and enter a password. Then it seems to hang. This is a new

[arch-general] SOLVED (Hopefully): Re: turn off notifications?

2013-05-06 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2013 04:35 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 11:10 AM, David Benfell > wrote: > >> >> So maybe thunderbird uses a separate mechanism for popping up >> notifications? > > > In Thunderbird

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-06 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2013 03:01 AM, Joan Rieu wrote: > 2013/5/4 David Benfell > >> Mostly they seem to originate from Thunderbird, but I'm assuming >> there are other sources as well. >> > > From what I remember, Thunderb

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-05 Thread David Benfell
ed here. So maybe thunderbird uses a separate mechanism for popping up notifications? Thanks! - -- David Benfell / benf...@parts-unknown.org Please see https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG information (or the attachment you don't understand) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-05 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/05/2013 01:09 AM, Josh Liberty wrote: > I think you're going about this entirely the wrong way. Which > desktop environment are you using? > Cinnamon. Sometimes Gnome, but mostly Cinnamon. Thanks! - -- David Benfell /

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-04 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2013 07:44 PM, XeCycle wrote: > David Benfell writes: > > [...] > >> I'll have to confess, I'm in way over my head. Am I doing this >> right? >> >> n4rky% gdbus introspect --session --dest

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-04 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/04/2013 04:18 AM, xecycle wrote: > > 在 2013-5-4,下午16:49,David Benfell 写道: >>> The notification daemon listens on D-Bus session bus at >>> service org.freedesktop.Notifications, object >>> /org/freedesktop/Not

Re: [arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-04 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/03/2013 08:26 PM, xecycle wrote: > > 在 2013-5-4,上午11:22,David Benfell 写道: > >> I'm failing to find where to do this. The Settings>Notifications >> switch does not seem to control notifications--at least

[arch-general] turn off notifications?

2013-05-03 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm failing to find where to do this. The Settings>Notifications switch does not seem to control notifications--at least under the Cinnamon desktop environment. For me, they take up a huge amount of screen real estate, all too often right whe

Re: [arch-general] XFCE broken with Gnome 3.8?

2013-04-22 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/22/2013 11:54 AM, Alexandre Medeiros wrote: > > Have you tried starting xfce without a login manager (with startx > and stuff)? > If memory serves--and it's been a while--the command needed is something like startxfce4 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATUR

[arch-general] Startup problems, was Re: gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-17 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/17/2013 2:27 PM, David Benfell wrote: > On 4/16/2013 6:43 PM, Dennis Anderson wrote: > >> Well gummiboot looks OK, default mkinitcpio seems OK, (you did >> run mkinitcpio -p linux after reinstalling right). > It turns

Re: [arch-general] gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-17 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/16/2013 6:43 PM, Dennis Anderson wrote: > > Well gummiboot looks OK, default mkinitcpio seems OK, (you did run > mkinitcpio -p linux after reinstalling right). > Yup. I eventually poked around inside the shell that rEFInd was dropping me into.

Re: [arch-general] gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-17 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/16/2013 6:43 PM, Dennis Anderson wrote: > > Well gummiboot looks OK, default mkinitcpio seems OK, (you did run > mkinitcpio -p linux after reinstalling right). > Yup. I eventually poked around inside the shell that rEFInd was dropping me into.

Re: [arch-general] gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-15 Thread David Benfell
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 09:46:46PM +0200, Nelson Marambio wrote: > > Hi, Dennis, > > you didn't forget to replace 'sata pata scsi' etc. by 'block' ? That > was my fault a few months ago shortly before an update of the kernel. > In result, the bootimage couldn't find any harddisk installed. > > M

Re: [arch-general] gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Dennis, On 04/13/2013 08:28 PM, Dennis Anderson wrote: > Hi David, > > I have EFI working on an ASUS mobo so maybe I can help. What does > you arch.conf look like. Sounds lilke that is where the problems > could be. > Here it is, along with a dir

[arch-general] and with rEFInd, was Re: gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2013 12:11 PM, David Benfell wrote: > > I'm not quite sure what the best way to proceed is at this point. > I think I'm awfully close to having it working, but it *is* EFI, > and so far, that's always an adventure.

[arch-general] gummiboot kernel panic: unable to mount root fs

2013-04-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I haven't seen this one for a while--a long while. I assume it still means what it used to mean, that is, that I haven't correctly specified the root partition. gummiboot is proving to be a bit of an adventure on this Asus X202E. The gummiboo

Re: [arch-general] Another 'gotta be something idiotic': trying to create bootable USB thumb drive

2013-04-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/13/2013 12:43 AM, Rashif Ray Rahman wrote: > > It looks like your thumbdrive wasn't as stubborn as was initially > suspected. Recreating the partition table made it work. What you're > facing now is an issue with configuration. > > My personal

Re: [arch-general] Another 'gotta be something idiotic': trying to create bootable USB thumb drive

2013-04-12 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/2013 12:32 AM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > > Hi > > Those SanDisk drive are a real pain you can use them but you are > going to have to fdisk it first there is stuff on there that stops > Linux dead in it's tracks i have several of them the 4Gb on

Re: [arch-general] Another 'gotta be something idiotic': trying to create bootable USB thumb drive

2013-04-12 Thread David Benfell
On 4/12/2013 11:23 AM, Ray Rashif wrote: > Before you do that, did you try using the tool mentioned in the Ubuntu > thread to remove unwanted firmware partitions, if any? If not, you may > want to format the entire thing with an HP legacy formatting tool.¹ > I've used it successfully in the past to

Re: [arch-general] Another 'gotta be something idiotic': trying to create bootable USB thumb drive

2013-04-11 Thread David Benfell
ing idiotic', just different from what I expected. My guess is you've nailed it. I guess I'll head back to Best Buy for a different brand. Thanks! - -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG (the attachment you don't understand) information. -BEGI

[arch-general] Another 'gotta be something idiotic': trying to create bootable USB thumb drive

2013-04-11 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I can't believe I'm having trouble with this. I'm trying to follow the directions at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media Specifically: dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx Which I translate to: sudo dd bs=

Re: [arch-general] spamd "config: cannot create user preferences file"

2013-04-06 Thread David Benfell
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 06:15:29PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: > > Casting about on the web, I gather this is an ownership/permissions > issue. That'd be fine and I might know what to do about it if I knew > where spamd was trying to create it and, for that matter, under what u

[arch-general] spamd "config: cannot create user preferences file"

2013-04-05 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Casting about on the web, I gather this is an ownership/permissions issue. That'd be fine and I might know what to do about it if I knew where spamd was trying to create it and, for that matter, under what user. But I don't even know where th

Re: [arch-general] SOLVED Re: Installing by remote control -- network trouble

2013-04-03 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2013 07:24 AM, Chris Down wrote: > On 2013-04-03 07:19, David Benfell wrote: >> Oh, how absolutely embarrassing. Whoever heard of a network >> device named enp3s2? Really. Here's the service file, complete >> with a

[arch-general] SOLVED Re: Installing by remote control -- network trouble

2013-04-03 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/2/2013 8:31 PM, David Benfell wrote: > Hi all, > > I've almost got this. My dedicated server appears to be willing to > boot from the disk, but the network doesn't come up. > Oh, how absolutely embarrassing. Whoever

[arch-general] Installing by remote control -- network trouble

2013-04-02 Thread David Benfell
What am I missing? Thanks! - -- David Benfell See https://parts-unknown.org/node/2 for GnuPG (the attachment you don't understand) information. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJ

[arch-general] upgrading mysql to mariadb

2013-03-29 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I had managed not to see this: https://www.archlinux.org/news/mariadb-replaces-mysql-in-repositories/ But it turned up on one of my feeds today, so I went to work. All went well until the final step, the upgrade: Phase 3/3: Running 'mysql_fi

Re: [arch-general] Installing by remote control

2013-03-19 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2013 03:43 PM, David Rosenstrauch wrote: > > That's exactly right. > > A KVMOIP is basically the same thing, but for systems that don't > have this capability built natively into their BIOS. The data > center operator hooks up the KVMOIP

Re: [arch-general] Installing by remote control

2013-03-19 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2013 03:13 PM, Christoph Vigano wrote: > > IIRC, by requesting KVMoIP you will get a serial console attached > to your server onto which you can logon and thus have access to a > serial console to your server, allowing you to view the boot >

[arch-general] Installing by remote control

2013-03-19 Thread David Benfell
Please do not change the subject line of this e-mail. Only by this you make sure that your answer will not be out of context. Please direct all support issues directly to supp...@contabo.com . This will guarantee fastest processing possible. _________

Re: [arch-general] can't publish keys to network? What?

2013-03-13 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/12/2013 05:02 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > > Try running seahorse, go to Edit -> Preferences. > > Make sure "Automatically synchronize modified keys with key > servers" is not checked. > It was *not* checked. But at least now I know what it is.

[arch-general] can't publish keys to network? What?

2013-03-11 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I wish I could ask this question intelligently. But I am clueless. I'm using the Cinnamon desktop manager. Whenever I log in, I get a message in the upper left hand corner that claims it "can't publish keys to the network." I haven't seen thi

Re: [arch-general] Gotta be a stupid gnome-terminal problem

2013-03-05 Thread David Benfell
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:47:22 -0700 Matthew Monaco wrote: > > Sorry, I don't have definitive answer. You can check > ~/.xession-errors and $ journalctl -bp warning for clues. (If you use > GDM .xsession-errors might have been moved recently. I only have a ~/.xsession, not .xsession-errors. journa

Re: [arch-general] Gotta be a stupid gnome-terminal problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/2013 06:08 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > > > You can see if anything is running under the terminal with ps -AHf when > gnome-terminal is running. Check the preferences under the "Title and Command" > tab to make sure you haven't overridden your

Re: [arch-general] UEFI madness

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/02/2013 03:31 AM, Mika Fischer wrote: > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: >> With the >> ESP at /boot, pacman automatically installs the kernels where they >> need to be, and no ugly copying hacks are necessary. > > Do you me

[arch-general] Gotta be a stupid gnome-terminal problem

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, All other terminal emulators work. I have checked--thanks to what little I found on the web that seemed apropos--to be sure that /dev/pts is mounted (it is). But when I run gnome-terminal, I get no prompt and typing in commands does not work.

Re: [arch-general] UEFI madness

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
On 03/02/2013 10:32 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > which works really beautifully and needs no manual intervention when new > kernels arrive. However it did take me some time with a lot of help from > Rod Smith to get it all set up correctly. > > Basic steps were: > 1) Format disks with GPT instead o

Re: [arch-general] UEFI madness

2013-03-02 Thread David Benfell
On 03/02/2013 11:13 AM, Jan Steffens wrote: Make sure the EFI System Partition is mounted at /boot. Gummiboot expects this: The /vmlinuz-linux path is relative to the ESP. With the ESP at /boot, pacman automatically installs the kernels where they need to be, and no ugly copying hacks are necessa

[arch-general] UEFI madness

2013-03-01 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, So far, my attempt to install Arch Linux on a UEFI system is a total facepalm moment. The problem is in booting post-install. So, first, does anyone have actual--and successful--experience installing Arch on a UEFI system? Yes, I went to the

Re: [arch-general] UEFI experience - recommendations needed.

2013-01-05 Thread David Benfell
On 1/5/2013 12:23 PM, Mike Cloaked wrote: > > Does anyone have experience with such a UEFI system on this list? Apart > from the info on the arch wiki and the install wiki info (which I have been > reading), are systems like this reliable once installed? Does the routine > pacman update process fo

Re: [arch-general] Prosody update

2012-12-12 Thread David Benfell
> > Please report/followup there. > > By the way, it is still not working for me with prosody 0.8.2-7 I'm just going to have to remember http://bugs.archlinux.org/ Thanks! (And by the way, yes, it is working for me, now.)

[arch-general] Prosody update

2012-12-12 Thread David Benfell
Hi all, It appears that the prosody package dependencies have been updated, but not the program itself: atlanta# prosodyctl start ** Prosody was unable to find luasocket This package can be obtained in the following ways: Source: http://www.tecgraf.puc-rio.

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread David Benfell
Rebuild php-imagick against imagemagick 6.8. AUR packages are > unsupported and it's your responsibility to rebuild them when a > soname bump happens in some library. Yes, my bad. Thank you! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/28/2012 01:59 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > > It's an AUR package php-imagick, that you need to recompile. > Yes, you are right. I was an idiot for not remembering. Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN

[arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-27 Thread David Benfell
;m right that this is a packaging bug, where should I be reporting it? And if I'm wrong and it is not a packaging bug, what should I do? Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [arch-general] Suggestions for email for a paranoid Archer

2012-10-11 Thread David Benfell
this area at that time was seriously out of date. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org

Re: [arch-general] systemd transition on virtual server - help needed

2012-10-10 Thread David Benfell
know Linode does. I don't know about others. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-27 Thread David Benfell
On 09/27/2012 11:34 AM, Tobias Frilling wrote: The -discussion mailing list could serve as an outlet for this need, rendering the other list more productive via being moderated; The rule wouldn't be "shut up or be banned", which shouldn't really be necessary for rational folks like us, but "shu

Re: [arch-general] Wanted: advice dual-booting Arch and Windows 7 on new laptop

2012-09-18 Thread David Benfell
On 09/18/2012 02:14 AM, Robbie Smith wrote: Due to the arrangement of the partitions, I don't think creating an Extended partition will work (they need to be the last one in the table, don't they?) There are no extended partitions in UEFI. They're all primary partitions and you can have more

[arch-general] SOLVED (sort of): Re: pear/php/module api version mismatch

2012-09-11 Thread David Benfell
On 09/11/2012 06:42 PM, Simon Perry wrote: FWIW, I picked one of your modules at random, and "pear install" told me to use "pecl install uploadprogress", and it worked fine. An initial major problem was in the final line of that mess, the one that said, "PHP Fatal error: Directive 'allow_cal

Re: [arch-general] pear/php/module api version mismatch

2012-09-11 Thread David Benfell
On 09/11/2012 06:23 PM, Simon Perry wrote: On 11/09/12, David Benfell wrote: | Okay, that gets rid of one problem. What about the others? Can you re-install the modules? Looks like they might need a re-compile against your current version of PHP? There is a 'pear uninstall' a

Re: [arch-general] pear/php/module api version mismatch

2012-09-11 Thread David Benfell
On 09/11/2012 06:18 PM, Simon Perry wrote: > I should have added "for starters", I don't think it will fix the rest of your problems. Unfortunately, I don't use PEAR that much to offer any further advice. Our mails crossed. :-)

Re: [arch-general] pear/php/module api version mismatch

2012-09-11 Thread David Benfell
On 09/11/2012 06:15 PM, Simon Perry wrote: On 11/09/12, David Benfell wrote: | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library | '/usr/lib/php/modules/json.so' - /usr/lib/php/modules/json.so: | cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown | on li

[arch-general] pear/php/module api version mismatch

2012-09-11 Thread David Benfell
Hi all, Apologies for what I'm sure is an idiot question. Any time I try to do anything with pear, I get: PHP Warning: PHP Startup: uploadprogress: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20090626 PHPcompiled with module API=20100525 These options need to match in Unk

Re: [arch-general] OT: "Major distributions" (WAS: Re: [arch-dev-public] Migration to systemd)

2012-08-17 Thread David Benfell
if programs have a way of not forking and can simply run without what I know from my old PDP-11 RSTS/e days as "detaching," although systemd is better able to handle programs that do than daemontools is. -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
cratch. Our (emphasis on the collective) failure to solve this, however, is debilitating, not only for existing users for whom support is harder to find, but in terms of attracting future users, not just to Arch but to the open source community in general. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts

Re: [arch-general] systemd virtual terminals

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
5 August 2012 21:36, David Benfell > wrote: > > On 08/15/2012 11:31 AM, David Benfell wrote: >>>> On 08/15/2012 10:55 AM, Jameson wrote: >>>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:03 AM, David Benfell >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Also when I lo

Re: [arch-general] systemd virtual terminals

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2012 11:31 AM, David Benfell wrote: > On 08/15/2012 10:55 AM, Jameson wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:03 AM, David Benfell >> wrote: >>> Also when I log in, the password is visible. > >> The first plac

Re: [arch-general] systemd virtual terminals

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/15/2012 10:55 AM, Jameson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 4:03 AM, David Benfell > wrote: >> Also when I log in, the password is visible. > > The first place I would check for this would be your console > font/

Re: [arch-general] DJB vs LP, was Re: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
source, I might still agree with you. ;-) - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQK+p8AAoJELT202JKF+xpLmwP/1a

[arch-general] systemd virtual terminals

2012-08-15 Thread David Benfell
it looks to me like the problem is with legacy.conf but I'm not seeing why this should be problematic: d /run/lock 0755 root root - d /run/lock/subsys 0755 root root - d /run/lock/lockdev 0775 root lock - /run and /run/lock both exist I've tried rebooting; it didn't help. Now what

Re: [arch-general] DJB vs LP, was Re: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/2012 06:44 PM, Anthony ''Ishpeck'' Tedjamulia wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 03:53:10PM -0700, David Benfell wrote: >> I'd add that djb has started several projects that have been, I >> think, very,

Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/14/2012 04:08 PM, Brandon Watkins wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Norbert Zeh > wrote: > >> David Benfell [2012.08.14 1535 -0700]: >>> What I think is unfortunate about the discussion of systemd >>&g

Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
it must because my non-standard mounts are present. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQKuVlAAoJELT202JKF+xpkJEP/iX4Jf4WT9+Cac0gtjSeGxTc ZU/J

Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
v,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=100) - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQKteNAAoJELT202JKF+xpHlkQA

[arch-general] DJB vs LP, was Re: Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
ood, but then dropped them. It is harder to justify using his stuff when development is largely limited to one man's attention span. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.

Re: [arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd

2012-08-14 Thread David Benfell
lseaudio. I think it is possible to like one and not the other. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQKtKaAAoJELT202JKF+xpT7MP+wau7MW57X

Re: [arch-general] What can be deleted, when not using systemd - was: polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-12 Thread David Benfell
drawing in the rest of the pulseaudio toolchain that is clearly problematic. Great discussion, by the way. I don't fully understand it either, but given the problems I've had with pulseaudio, I appreciate what seems to be confirmation that I'm losing nothing by leaving it out. - -- D

Re: [arch-general] systemd fsck

2012-08-11 Thread David Benfell
ur to me as something to check because I was focused on the system coming up for the first time under systemd. So I rebooted off a CD-ROM and ran e2fsck manually (with -fy), it ran cleanly, and when I rebooted off the hard drive, it came up cleanly. Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknow

Re: [arch-general] systemd fsck

2012-08-11 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2012 04:09 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 6:27 AM, David Benfell > wrote: >> 2) But I did notice an error that worried me--just because it >> looks worrying--as it came up: >> >> Aug 0

Re: [arch-general] What can be deleted, when not using systemd - was: polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-11 Thread David Benfell
dependencies to pull in, in this example, a complete gnome. Is that really the fault of upstream? - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQJuyj

[arch-general] systemd fsck

2012-08-10 Thread David Benfell
blocks /dev/sda3 is the root partition. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQJdEsAAoJELT202JKF+xpR8EP/RAqqrPz2pumaHET2XLI97UC

Re: [arch-general] OT: [arch-dev-public] polkit package upgrade patch

2012-08-10 Thread David Benfell
s advertised, 1) such evangelism would not be necessary, and 2) the topic might not come up so often. But what's really interesting is that the topic appears even here on an Arch mailing list, since Arch--as far as I know--wouldn't foist PulseAudio on anybody unless they wanted it. -

Re: [arch-general] Brasero cannot create mp3 based cds ?

2012-08-10 Thread David Benfell
taken to the relevant lists. The response you received is one I would expect here, where part of the advantage of this environment is that when one software package doesn't meet your needs, there are alternatives available. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNA

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-06 Thread David Benfell
concede that there are valid points to be made in opposition. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQIFFuAAoJELT202JKF+xp+QIQAJoEOJUXozvyDWmjs/spK6

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-05 Thread David Benfell
it from being the > shell standard because the vast majority of scripts are crafted > using Bash, a widespread de-facto standard for so long time. > Indeed--those incompatibilities are precisely what I like about zsh. ;-) - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE--

Re: [arch-general] New install media 2012.08.04 uses ZSH, if I may ask, why?

2012-08-05 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/2012 07:57 PM, Sébastien Luttringer wrote: > Maybe one day zsh will become the default shell on arch :) > That'd get my vote, but I'd be amazed if any distribution ever did this. Doesn't zsh take more--a lot more-

Re: [arch-general] chromium crash when print dialog is invoked

2012-08-01 Thread David Benfell
0.1132.57-2 on x86_64, running xmonad. I get a total freeze of > chromium (have to kill -9) if I hit C-p, or hit "print" from the > menu. > We could spend a lot of time trying to eliminate possible causes. I am not seeing this behavior and I am not running xmonad but I am runn

Re: [arch-general] My end-user $0.02 on /etc/rc.conf splitting.

2012-07-28 Thread David Benfell
least as much angst among package maintainers about all this as we've seen on this list. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEB

Re: [arch-general] systemd script at boot?

2012-07-28 Thread David Benfell
un at startup and shutdown by enabling rc-local.service and rc-local-shutdown.service." The package is not recommended but it exists. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozil

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-28 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/28/2012 02:28 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > > Probably because it's "KillSignal", not "Kill-Signal". > Thanks! I'm about to head out the door, but I've corrected the service files accordingly. -

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
nly way to know if > a service has finished starting. > I am indeed finding in many cases I have to use 'forking'. - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.o

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
o it know all the processes > started from that service. See man systemd.kill KillMode= > It turns out I do need KillSignal= for my memcached jobs. But when I include it in the service file it complains: Unknown lvalue 'Kill-Signal' in section 'Service'. Ignoring. I'

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
27;s what I've got for dictd (which seems like a relatively simple case): [Unit] Description=Dict Server After=network.target [Service] Type=simple EnvironmentFile=/etc/conf.d/dictd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dictd ${DICTD_ARGS} -- ${DICTD_EARGS} Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.ta

Re: [arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
sr/lib/udev/, > so for user-created helper scripts, I think I'd put them in > /etc/systemd/. > That works for me. With some intervening logic to monitor the jobs--since systemd won't be able to monitor them itself--I think I can pull this off. Thanks! - -- David Benfell

[arch-general] In the systemd scheme, where should startup/stop scripts for things systemd can't handle go?

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
d stop some daemons. I'm thinking I definitely do not want to use /etc/rc.d for this (I had to back out and go back to init and /etc/rc.d is still in use for that). Is there some consensus on where such scripts should go? - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

2012-07-27 Thread David Benfell
ly, I have encountered other difficulties, but these are potentially topics for new threads. It looks to me like C Anthony's approach is a correct approach for network setups that don't fit into the standard netcfg/network paradigm. Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

2012-07-26 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/26/2012 07:49 AM, C Anthony Risinger wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:13 AM, David Benfell > wrote: >> >> Even with all those dashes in front of every command, it exits >> with a code and is plainly unhappy.

Re: [arch-general] systemd network configuration

2012-07-26 Thread David Benfell
ile in /etc/systemd/system, it still needs to be implemented with the systemctl enable. If the wiki is clear on this, I missed it. Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigm

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