Re: [arch-general] netcl leaves network down until reenable performed - do we need note?

2020-08-17 Thread Erich Eckner via arch-general
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi list, I got hit by this, too. On Mon, 17 Aug 2020, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: On 8/17/20 5:25 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: By "subservice" I think you mean ".include" stanzas? Your analysis is correct, this got removed from system

Re: [arch-general] netcl leaves network down until reenable performed - do we need note?

2020-08-17 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 8/17/20 5:25 PM, David C. Rankin wrote: > Archdevs, > > I have two computers using netctl, one for a static and one for a dhcp > address. After the last update on May, 3, > > netctl (1.22-1 -> 1.23-1) > > all remained fine and old profiles generated as subservices in > /etc/systemd/system,

[arch-general] netcl leaves network down until reenable performed - do we need note?

2020-08-17 Thread David C. Rankin
Archdevs, I have two computers using netctl, one for a static and one for a dhcp address. After the last update on May, 3, netctl (1.22-1 -> 1.23-1) all remained fine and old profiles generated as subservices in /etc/systemd/system, such as: netctl\@rlf_network\\x2dstatic.service continued t

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread Guus Snijders via arch-general
Op ma 17 aug. 2020 18:08 schreef David Rosenstrauch : > > > On 8/17/20 12:01 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: > > systemctl rescue > > Thanks! > > > > But this begs the question, why are you doing this before running pacman? > > ??? I always shut down all running daemons when I'm a

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 8/17/20 12:19 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: Em agosto 17, 2020 13:08 David Rosenstrauch escreveu: ???  I always shut down all running daemons when I'm about to update my system - seems like standard operating procedure to me:  1) I'd expect that it would be completely un

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em agosto 17, 2020 13:08 David Rosenstrauch escreveu: ??? I always shut down all running daemons when I'm about to update my system - seems like standard operating procedure to me: 1) I'd expect that it would be completely unpredictable what would happen if you updated/replaced an application

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread David Rosenstrauch
On 8/17/20 12:01 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general wrote: systemctl rescue Thanks! But this begs the question, why are you doing this before running pacman? ??? I always shut down all running daemons when I'm about to update my system - seems like standard operating procedure t

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-general
Em agosto 17, 2020 12:56 David Rosenstrauch escreveu: Hmmm ... OK. I wasn't aware that telinit was now being considered legacy/deprecated. I've habitually used it for years to drop to single user mode, which I do every time before I perform a system update with pacman. I guess I'll have t

Re: [arch-general] Telinit?

2020-08-17 Thread David Rosenstrauch
Thanks much for the detailed explanation. Response below. On 8/16/20 10:38 PM, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: The sysvcompat symlinks still installed are: - halt - reboot - poweroff - shutdown - init These programs are generically useful on fully systemd systems, and systemd documents t