Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 7/20/20 4:51 PM, Sam Mulvey wrote: > > On 7/20/20 1:34 AM, brent s. wrote: >> Because the binaries formerly known as "bind-tools" are a part of BIND9 >> proper[0]. Upstream, by including "bind-tools" binaries in the source >> for the BIND9 daemon, ipso facto*intends*  them to be built (and thus

Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread Sam Mulvey
On 7/20/20 1:34 AM, brent s. wrote: Because the binaries formerly known as "bind-tools" are a part of BIND9 proper[0]. Upstream, by including "bind-tools" binaries in the source for the BIND9 daemon, ipso facto*intends* them to be built (and thusly packaged) together. To do so otherwise is - o

Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 7/20/20 3:15 AM, Óscar García Amor wrote: > The problem is. Where is the limit? The whole distribution in one > package? The argument is the same, if you don't need it simply don't > use it. Don't be facetious. > In this case we are talking about binaries widely used that will be > installed

Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread brent s.
Responses inline. On 7/20/20 03:15, Óscar García Amor via arch-general wrote: (SNIP) > > The problem is. Where is the limit? The whole distribution in one > package? The argument is the same, if you don't need it simply don't > use it. Because the binaries formerly known as "bind-tools" are a p

Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf via arch-general
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 09:15:47 +0200, Óscar García Amor wrote: >The problem is. Where is the limit? The whole distribution in one >package? The argument is the same, if you don't need it simply don't >use it. No it is not the same! Not splitting software provided by a single upstream source into se

Re: [arch-general] Why bind-tools was merged into bind package?

2020-07-20 Thread Óscar García Amor via arch-general
Hi Eli, El lun., 20 jul. 2020 a las 0:11, Eli Schwartz via arch-general () escribió: > > Why do you care if a service is installed, if you aren't using that > service? Don't enable the service. You have lots of disabled services > installed already. So so... :-) > Why is it a problem if a system