Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On 28.09.2016 17:24, Francis Gerund via arch-general wrote: > > > That was my reaction when I saw you post a long debunked FUD story to this list. The problem lies with Intel and Lenovo, not Microsoft, and it was not a malicious move against Linux, no matter how hard you want to be the victim h

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:35:00 +0200, Lukas Rose wrote: >And the cases it didn't work out of the box were non-rolling-release >Distros where most times a manual kernel upgrade to some more recent >version fixed it. Sometimes it requires a BIOS update. When my mobo was new, it could be used with Linu

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On 29/09/16 11:19, Lukas Rose wrote: "Worked for you this day", "you were lucky "…? I am talking of 100+ Linux installations on different hardware over the last few years. Not just one or two lucky cases. And sometimes it was very new hardware, like WiFi-Chips that were released a few weeks ag

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

> On 29 Sep 2016, at 11:56, Martin Kühne via arch-general > wrote: > > Honestly, though, "worked for you to this day" just doesn't cut it in this > case. > Just because you were lucky or never had to deal with really new > hardware doesn't mean hardware compatibility is not an issue. > And th

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Lukas Rose wrote: > > I've been installing various Linux distributions on all kinds of notebooks > and desktop-PCs for several years now, and I almost never had problems with > hardware compatibility. Just follow the basic rules like avoid dedicated > graphics

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

> On 29 Sep 2016, at 10:40, Christian Kruse wrote: > > I can be sure that everything works with Linux. I don't have the time or > the energy to check the hardware vendors manually I've been installing various Linux distributions on all kinds of notebooks and desktop-PCs for several years now,

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:15:27 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:15:19 +0200, Martin Kühne via arch-general >wrote: >>Whoever makes a start with the wiki page will likely refer to this >>thread as a reference. > >And perhaps > >http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ > >however, s

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:15:19 +0200, Martin Kühne via arch-general wrote: >Whoever makes a start with the wiki page will likely refer to this >thread as a reference. And perhaps http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/ however, sometimes such lists are tricky. Sometimes hardware is mentioned as Linux

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 >Good evening, > >Do you Have any pointer to good opensource hardware ? > >Le 28 sept. 2016 21:04, "Jude DaShiell" a écrit : > If somebody is going to create a wiki entry then I wish to put forward Entroware https://www.entroware.com/store/ I've

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:45:12 +0200, Christian Kruse wrote: >Ralf Mardorf writes: > >> You are right, but you also missed something. I've taken a look at an >> averaged tower PC. At first appearance the price seems to be ok, but >> after a further look I noticed that it's just the basic price, if yo

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

Hi, Dragon ryu via arch-general writes: > I generality don't hate DIY PC. I think it worth pay your time to do > so. I don't hate them. When I was younger all my computers were DIY computers. But times change, and my work load increased; now my spare time is *very* limited and I am no longer wi

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:40:17 +0200, Christian Kruse wrote: >I can be sure that everything works with Linux. For what purpose? Writing emails and surfing through the world wide web? How does their computers work, if you boot the kernel with "threadirqs" for real-time tasks? Will it cause less or mu

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

2016/09/29 17:44 "Christian Kruse" : > > Hi, > > Ralf Mardorf writes: > > > You are right, but you also missed something. I've taken a look at an > > averaged tower PC. At first appearance the price seems to be ok, but > > after a further look I noticed that it's just the basic price, if you > > w

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

Hi, Ralf Mardorf writes: > You are right, but you also missed something. I've taken a look at an > averaged tower PC. At first appearance the price seems to be ok, but > after a further look I noticed that it's just the basic price, if you > want at least one hard disk drive, you already need to

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

thinkpenguin.com is another open architecture vendor. On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Christian Kruse wrote: Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:54:17 From: Christian Kruse Reply-To: General Discussion about Arch Linux To: General Discussion about Arch Linux Subject: Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Re

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

Hi, Merlin Büge writes: > But note that all that is not open source hardware (as mentioned > above). True, that's why I answered here and not earlier :-) > Also I'm not getting the point in buying such hardware -- there is > some linux distribution preinstalled, but that's it I guess. Or am I

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 10:06:29 +0200, Merlin Büge wrote: >On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:54:17 +0200 Christian Kruse wrote: >> Germany has such a company as well: >> >> > >But note that all that is not open source hardware (as mentioned >above). Also I'm not getting the p

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Merlin Büge wrote: > But note that all that is not open source hardware (as mentioned above). > Also I'm not getting the point in buying such hardware -- there is some linux > distribution preinstalled, but that's it I guess. Or am I missing something? > The hard

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:54:17 +0200 Christian Kruse wrote: > Hi, > > Maxwell Anselm via arch-general writes: > > >> > >> Do you Have any pointer to good opensource hardware ? > > > > > > Not exactly open-source/FSF-endorsed but https://system76.com/ sells > > laptops with Ubuntu-preinstalled so

Re: [arch-general] Microsoft Signature PC Requirements Now Blocks Linux Installation

Hi, Maxwell Anselm via arch-general writes: >> >> Do you Have any pointer to good opensource hardware ? > > > Not exactly open-source/FSF-endorsed but https://system76.com/ sells > laptops with Ubuntu-preinstalled so those are also guaranteed to run Arch. Germany has such a company as well: