Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Lee Burton
It's always been my opinion that PowerShell (powerscript?) has been poorly named -- it's a lackluster /shell/ although things like psreadline,powershell_ise,etc make it less awful as a shell on windows but it's great as interpreted (ish -- see DLR/JIT) .NET -- you can compile C# inside of it or cal

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Jeroen Mathon via arch-general
To be honest. I think that Bash is way more useful for sys admin work. Shipping PowerShell to linux will be a total disaster. On Fri, 19 Aug 2016, 07:17 Christian Hesse, wrote: > Hunter Connelly via arch-general on Thu, > 2016/08/18 21:28: > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 09:00:33PM -0400, Eli Schwa

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Christian Hesse
Hunter Connelly via arch-general on Thu, 2016/08/18 21:28: > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 09:00:33PM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general > wrote: > > Why would anyone want to use an overly-verbose scripting language like > > PowerShell as an interactive shell, **unless it was their only option**? >

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Dave T via arch-general
> PowerShell, being an object-oriented language When we need an object oriented language for administering (or scripting) Arch , why not use Python (or one of our other OO options)? Is there any strong use case for PowerShell on Arch given the tools that are already available? I only see one use

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 08/18/2016 09:28 PM, Hunter Connelly via arch-general wrote: > While I tend to prefer Unix-style shells, there are *some* things that > PowerShell does better. > > Here's an example I found on Reddit in the thread about this on /r/linux. > Both of the following commands find the size and name o

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 08/18/2016 09:09 PM, Ido Rosen wrote: > Personal opinions aside, we should treat it like any other package: > if it gets enough votes and is popular, it can move from AUR to > community just like any other free open source software. Um, yeah. That's why I said "But I don't see it being very pop

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Hunter Connelly via arch-general
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 09:00:33PM -0400, Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > Why would anyone want to use an overly-verbose scripting language like > PowerShell as an interactive shell, **unless it was their only option**? While I tend to prefer Unix-style shells, there are *some* things that

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Kyle Terrien via arch-general
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:00:33 -0400 Eli Schwartz via arch-general wrote: > On 08/18/2016 08:35 PM, Kyle Terrien via arch-general wrote: > > I haven't used PowerShell much. But in briefly looking at it, the > > commands are very verbose compared to Unix/Linux. E.g. grep is > > something like Get-I

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Eli Schwartz via arch-general
On 08/18/2016 08:35 PM, Kyle Terrien via arch-general wrote: > I haven't used PowerShell much. But in briefly looking at it, the > commands are very verbose compared to Unix/Linux. E.g. grep is > something like Get-Item. > > My Windows survival kit currently consists of Cygwin, which still kicks

Re: [arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Kyle Terrien via arch-general
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:30:27 -0400 Hunter Connelly via arch-general wrote: > https://github.com/powershell/powershell > > I was wondering what you guys thought about it. > Specifically, if any of you will be using it, if you think it should > be in the main repos, what this might mean for the fut

[arch-general] Opinions on PowerShell?

2016-08-18 Thread Hunter Connelly via arch-general
Recently, Microsoft released the source code for PowerShell under the MIT license. Here's the link for that. https://github.com/powershell/powershell I was wondering what you guys thought about it. Specifically, if any of you will be using it, if you think it should be in the main repos, what t