Re: [arch-general] Kernel bug #60539

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Liberty
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 18:04:44 Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia wrote: > The fix mentioned in bugzilla is in the 3.10.3 changelog[1]. Why don't > you give it a try? > > [1] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.x/ChangeLog-3.10.3 > Commit f8ee0e2e9db4d11d3b6593d9e2fba464caa0ff0c Fix is

Re: [arch-general] Kernel bug #60539

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 22:49 +0300, Josh Liberty wrote: > Hi people, > > I've just had to downgrade my kernel back to 3.9.9 because of this bug: > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60530 > Does anyone know when one may expect the fix to arrive at the stable kernel > builds? > > - Josh

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-07-30 18:41:00 -0400] Leonid Isaev: > Please guys... you only add more work for the moderators. Thanks for caring. They were whitelisted, but not anymore. It's the prisoner's dilemma: when a discussion goes nowhere, the clever choice is to stop replying. Replying anyhow might get you the la

[arch-general] Kernel bug #60539

2013-07-30 Thread Josh Liberty
Hi people, I've just had to downgrade my kernel back to 3.9.9 because of this bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60530 Does anyone know when one may expect the fix to arrive at the stable kernel builds? - Josh signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro A.
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 18:41 -0400, Leonid Isaev wrote: > > Please guys... you only add more work for the moderators. Agreed.

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Micay
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Leonid Isaev wrote: > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:11:05 -0400 > Daniel Micay wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Micay >> > wrote: >> > >> >> There's absolutely no part of

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro A.
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 18:11 -0400, Daniel Micay wrote: > > It's a mailing list, we don't care how many years of experience you > claim to have. Exactly. I don't care about you either. But read below. > I only care that you're telling people to waste their > time by suggesting they do merges wi

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Leonid Isaev
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:11:05 -0400 Daniel Micay wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Micay > > wrote: > > > >> There's absolutely no part of the merging process `vimdiff` is hiding > >> from you. You're ena

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Micay
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > >> There's absolutely no part of the merging process `vimdiff` is hiding >> from you. You're enamoured with doing tedious, repetitive work but >> most of us would rather

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Micay
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:40 AM, phanisvara wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 10:31:03 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: >> > nano, or mc with it's in-built editor. >> >> They don't have a diffing/merging mode, do they? > > no; i thought for somebody not used to managing arch, it would be > better to do thing

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > There's absolutely no part of the merging process `vimdiff` is hiding > from you. You're enamoured with doing tedious, repetitive work but > most of us would rather invest a few minutes in learning a more > powerful tool or writing a bit of c

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Micay
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia > > Matter of opinion. I value learning from first principles. From that point > of view: merging graphical tools are crutches if you don't have the > foggiest idea of what is actually going on underneath. If you arrived at a > later

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Don deJuan
On 07/30/2013 01:09 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM, P. A. wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 20:05 +0200, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: >>> On 30 July 2013 16:33, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia >>> wrote: IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already available: both nan

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM, P. A. wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 20:05 +0200, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > >> On 30 July 2013 16:33, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia > >> wrote: > >> > IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already ava

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Micay
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:54 PM, P. A. wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 20:05 +0200, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: >> On 30 July 2013 16:33, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia >> wrote: >> > IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already available: both nano, >> > diffutils and less are part of base. Teac

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread P. A.
On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 20:05 +0200, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > On 30 July 2013 16:33, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia > wrote: > > IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already available: both nano, > > diffutils and less are part of base. Teach person to use "diff -u" ... > The only diff tool

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 30 July 2013 16:33, Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia wrote: > IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already available: both nano, > diffutils and less are part of base. Teach person to use "diff -u" > combined with less and to excersise some judgement about the difference > between the work

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia
IMnsHO, teach this person to use the tools already available: both nano, diffutils and less are part of base. Teach person to use "diff -u" combined with less and to excersise some judgement about the difference between the working copies and the new files. Most of the time it is a matter of jotti

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread phanisvara
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 13:33:58 sek...@posteo.se wrote: > Before you do nothing, it's better if you use e.g. pacnew_scripts > (is in the AUR). interesting; didn't know about this AUR package/script and will look at it. nevertheless, doing nothing is safer than doing nonsense. i don't know about

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Gaetan Bisson
[2013-07-30 10:32:40 +0100] Paul Gideon Dann: > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 10:58:21 Chris Down wrote: > > On 2013-07-30 09:43, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > > I run a couple of Arch servers, and I'm trying to teach someone how to go > > > about maintaining it (for when I'm not around). The difficulty is

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread sekret
* phanisvara [30.07.2013 11:41]: > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 10:31:03 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > > nano, or mc with it's in-built editor. > > > > They don't have a diffing/merging mode, do they? > > no; i thought for somebody not used to managing arch, it would be > better to do things manually,

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Oliver Kraitschy
> Thanks Chris, but this is a headless server; Xorg is not installed, so meld > is > out. Hi Paul, what about using colordiff and tweaking its display settings to your liking? Greetings Oliver

Re: [arch-general] Apache PID File not readable

2013-07-30 Thread Pedro Alejandro López-Valencia
El jul 30, 2013 2:10 AM, "Stefan Tatschner" escribió: > > My first answer was rejected because I messed up the conversation > history. Here is a new try. > > 2013/7/29 Jameson : > > What does cat /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/apache.conf return? > > stefan@archvm ~ $ sudo cat /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/apache.conf

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread phanisvara
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 10:31:03 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > nano, or mc with it's in-built editor. > > They don't have a diffing/merging mode, do they? no; i thought for somebody not used to managing arch, it would be better to do things manually, or not at all. often you can leave .pacnew fil

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 10:58:21 Chris Down wrote: > On 2013-07-30 09:43, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > I run a couple of Arch servers, and I'm trying to teach someone how to go > > about maintaining it (for when I'm not around). The difficulty is that > > when it comes to package updates that requir

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 14:26:31 phanisvara wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 09:43:02 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > > Does anyone know of > > any good & simple(ish) alternative for merging files over SSH? > > nano, or mc with it's in-built editor. They don't have a diffing/merging mode, do they? Paul

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-07-30 09:43, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > I run a couple of Arch servers, and I'm trying to teach someone how to go > about maintaining it (for when I'm not around). The difficulty is that when > it comes to package updates that require merging .pacnew files, I always use > Vim to merge chang

Re: [arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread phanisvara
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 09:43:02 Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > Does anyone know of > any good & simple(ish) alternative for merging files over SSH? nano, or mc with it's in-built editor. -- phani.

[arch-general] CLI diffing tool other than Vim?

2013-07-30 Thread Paul Gideon Dann
Hi guys, I run a couple of Arch servers, and I'm trying to teach someone how to go about maintaining it (for when I'm not around). The difficulty is that when it comes to package updates that require merging .pacnew files, I always use Vim to merge changes. That's quite a steep learning curve

Re: [arch-general] Apache PID File not readable

2013-07-30 Thread Stefan Tatschner
My first answer was rejected because I messed up the conversation history. Here is a new try. 2013/7/29 Jameson : > What does cat /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/apache.conf return? stefan@archvm ~ $ sudo cat /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/apache.conf d /run/httpd 0755 root root - That seems to be the problem...