Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Curtis Shimamoto
On 10/29/12 at 12:00am, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > > You (Tom) pointed out a way to disable logind modifying device > > ACLs recently. It could be a good thing to have that in the > > online docs for those users (like me) for whom this sort of

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Robbie Smith
On 29/10/12 01:17, Zeke Sulastin wrote: On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Dave Morgan wrote: What are the the technical reasons for group membership breaking functionality when using systemd? With a typical desktop use case, systemd-logind's session management handles the ability to do things

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread David Stephenson
I should be home before 8. I need to leave at 8:30 On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:35 PM, David Benfell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 10/27/2012 11:45 PM, A Rojas wrote: >> >>> Assuming I'm right that this is a packaging bug, where should I >>> be reporting it? And if

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/27/2012 11:45 PM, A Rojas wrote: > >> Assuming I'm right that this is a packaging bug, where should I >> be reporting it? And if I'm wrong and it is not a packaging bug, >> what should I do? >> > > Rebuild php-imagick against imagemagick 6.8.

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread David Benfell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/28/2012 01:59 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote: > > It's an AUR package php-imagick, that you need to recompile. > Yes, you are right. I was an idiot for not remembering. Thanks! - -- David Benfell benf...@parts-unknown.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > You (Tom) pointed out a way to disable logind modifying device > ACLs recently. It could be a good thing to have that in the > online docs for those users (like me) for whom this sort of > thing is unwanted. The rule that tags device nodes

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 06:08:46PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: > This means that both the user granted permissons by ACL, and the user > granted permission by being in the right group will have access to the > device. In other words, if your user had access without logind/CK s/he > will still have

Re: [arch-general] Btrfs snapshots for upgrade operations

2012-10-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Yclept Nemo wrote: >> create a new subvolume as a snapshot of / >> mount the new subvolume on /mnt/ >> pacman -Syu --root=/mnt >> mark the new subvolume as the default one > > How much space does a subvolume/snapshot require? It is copy-on-write, so at first it ta

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Giorgio Lando wrote: >> "Note: Adding your user to groups (optical, audio, scanner, ...) is not >> necessary with systemd. It might even break the wanted functionality if >> you do so." > > While I ignore the technical reasons, my scanner does not work if I am not

Re: [arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

2012-10-28 Thread Alexandre Ferrando
On 28 October 2012 06:41, kendell clark wrote: > > Hi all > I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and > recieved the following warnings from pacman. > warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) > warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel Micay
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Daniel Micay wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Dave Morgan > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The systemd wiki article says: >> >> "Note: Adding your user to groups (optical, audio, scanner, ...) is not >> necessary with systemd. It might even break the wanted func

Re: [arch-general] help

2012-10-28 Thread Daniel Wallace
Jesse Jaara wrote: >> and then I use “systemctl enable dhcpcd@ ” hoping to reset the >Internet connection but the shell tells me“ Fail to issue method >call:Read-only file system” > >You need to do 'systemctl enable dhcpcd@interface_name' >substituting the interface_name with your network device

Re: [arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

2012-10-28 Thread A Rojas
kendell clark wrote: > > Hi all > I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and > recieved the following warnings from pacman. > warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) > warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than core (1.42.5-1) > warni

Re: [arch-general] Btrfs snapshots for upgrade operations

2012-10-28 Thread Yclept Nemo
> create a new subvolume as a snapshot of / > mount the new subvolume on /mnt/ > pacman -Syu --root=/mnt > mark the new subvolume as the default one > In the initramfs, you need an emergency facility to let the user list > the available subvols (btrfs su list /) and choose one to mount (which > wo

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Tom Gundersen
Nice explanation Zeke. Just one comment: On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Zeke Sulastin wrote: > Adding a user to a group can cause this process to be subverted - > logind can't manage who is in what group. This means that both the user granted permissons by ACL, and the user granted permission

Re: [arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Zeke Sulastin
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 4:26 AM, Dave Morgan wrote: > What are the the technical reasons for group membership breaking > functionality when using systemd? With a typical desktop use case, systemd-logind's session management handles the ability to do things like use audio/video via ACLs: $ ls -l

Re: [arch-general] help

2012-10-28 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 10/28/2012 12:18 AM, SMR wrote: > Hello.I'm a new users of Archlinux but using Ubuntu for 3 years. > > > I have installed all the system following the guide of beginner's guide. > and I found I could not ping to google after I reboot my computer however > just as 5 minutes before I had just u

Re: [arch-general] help

2012-10-28 Thread Jesse Jaara
> and then I use “systemctl enable dhcpcd@ ” hoping to reset the Internet > connection but the shell tells me“ Fail to issue method call:Read-only file > system” You need to do 'systemctl enable dhcpcd@interface_name' substituting the interface_name with your network device like eth0. Do you g

Re: [arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

2012-10-28 Thread Allan McRae
On 28/10/12 15:41, kendell clark wrote: > > Hi all > I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and > recieved the following warnings from pacman. > warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) > warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than core (

Re: [arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

2012-10-28 Thread Ionut Biru
On 10/28/2012 07:41 AM, kendell clark wrote: > > Hi all > I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and > recieved the following warnings from pacman. > warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) > warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than c

[arch-general] systemd and local group membership

2012-10-28 Thread Dave Morgan
Hi, The systemd wiki article says: "Note: Adding your user to groups (optical, audio, scanner, ...) is not necessary with systemd. It might even break the wanted functionality if you do so." What are the the technical reasons for group membership breaking functionality when using systemd? -- Da

[arch-general] help

2012-10-28 Thread SMR
Hello.I'm a new users of Archlinux but using Ubuntu for 3 years. I have installed all the system following the guide of beginner's guide. and I found I could not ping to google after I reboot my computer however just as 5 minutes before I had just used pacman to install all the packages i neede

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread A Rojas
> Assuming I'm right that this is a packaging bug, where should I be > reporting it? And if I'm wrong and it is not a packaging bug, what > should I do? > Rebuild php-imagick against imagemagick 6.8. AUR packages are unsupported and it's your responsibility to rebuild them when a soname bump h

[arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?

2012-10-28 Thread kendell clark
Hi all I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and recieved the following warnings from pacman. warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than core (1.42.5-1) warning: gcc: local (4.7.2-2) is newer

Re: [arch-general] imagemagick problem

2012-10-28 Thread Lukas Jirkovsky
On 28 October 2012 05:50, David Benfell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I think I have stumbled over a packaging bug. It appeared with an > imagemagick upgrade that occurred today. Here is the error I am seeing > repeatedly: > > PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unabl